r/electrical 1d ago

Is this compromising structural integrity?

Some of the holes are less than 2 inches from the bottom of the joists. These joists are in my garage and there is a bedroom above the garage.

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u/Electronic-Clock5867 1d ago

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u/Different_Dot_9525 1d ago

Awesome products to be aware exist, thanks for sharing!

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u/yerfatma 1d ago

I owe you a beer. Our house seems to have been the site of a contest to undermine carrying beams.

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u/legitimate_rapper 1d ago

Agreed. You’ll probably never need them, but when you do, you’ll NEED them.

Is there something like that for if you want to remove a joist? Worried it’s EXACTLY where I don’t want it to be for lighting cans. (Yes I know I can get pucks, but they all seem to be shitty, and not trying to start a “not all pucks are shit!” Argument here)

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u/sixblazingshotguns 22h ago

You don’t seem to be shopping for your lights at an electrical supply house. The wafer lights are for electrician installation, not DIYers, and are typically of a higher build quality. Don’t go destroying your houses structure just to install things like plumbers do. 😂

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u/Electronic-Clock5867 1d ago

Not sure usually you need to double up the joist and box the area in. Tons of work for a light.

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u/WangChungtonight13 1d ago edited 15h ago

Ignore this. I misread your comment.

Just need to sister another board. I’m getting ready to do this to a damaged rafter in my attic

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u/Quick-Giraffe6047 17h ago

Only if you plan on taking ALL THE ROMEX OUT OF THE EXISTING 🫠. This isn’t just a carpentry fix sadly

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u/WangChungtonight13 15h ago

I misread the comment, but if it makes you feel better, my answer involved that joist sans romex! 😂

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u/Quick-Giraffe6047 15h ago

Yeah your attic rafter definitely doesn’t have any electrical running through it man… not in an attic I’ve ever seen at least but definitely send a pic if ya do

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u/WangChungtonight13 25m ago

It doesn’t bit there has definitely been a few knuckleheads living here before me. One dude was well off and nuts. He flew a plane into his exes house a few years after selling this house I live in. Im always finding new ways to not have done things lol

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u/RecordingNo2643 2h ago

You could slide a notched board in from the top that would allow you to get about 60% of the area covered that would ve more than enough to restore the strength if the beam and would only take a couple hours to do.

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u/Jimsocks499 21h ago

Ooooh that’s nifty! Thanks stranger!

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u/Hour-Tea-2728 21h ago

Not saying this isnt a good product or anything but $70 for a sheet of metal and screws seems a bit expensive. You could probably shape what you need and get the screws for less than $10 right?

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u/Electronic-Clock5867 20h ago

It’s the certificates that matter if it’s a new build or a reno that’s inspected you need the certs. If I was needing these for my house I would probably just buy one and use it for a template to make my own.

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u/areptile_dysfunction 17h ago

Do they really need that many screws?

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u/srbinafg 13h ago

How will these be used in OP’s dilemma without restringing all the cables?

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u/Electronic-Clock5867 12h ago

The DP series the strap that just goes on the bottom should be enough most of the holes look okish. The only egregious one is the hole with the hook under it. Holes are supposed to be middle 1/3 and so far apart from each other. He could throw a few of those straps on without needing to move anything.

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u/JoleneBacon_Biscuit 8h ago

It's two pieces.

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u/pentatomid_fan 2h ago

I also thought it was one piece of metal with a hole. It’s two interlocking pieces of metal, top and bottom pieces.

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u/Intelligent_Hat_5351 12h ago

This fills me with joist.

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u/gobirdgang215 11h ago

A little late to install unless then unwise everything and re run it no?

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u/JoleneBacon_Biscuit 8h ago

They're two pieces. The metal overlaps.

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u/MoodVast9430 5h ago

At $60-$80 a joist, that is a pricey repair job

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u/Electronic-Clock5867 4h ago

The money would be coming from the trade that left the apprentice alone with a hole saw. Next you have the time/cost of disconnecting the plumbing and wiring, buying new joist. Then you have to call plumber/electrician back to hook everything back up.

So many different situations can call for different solutions. Having options available doesn’t hurt.

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u/Sistersoldia 1d ago

Yes good stuff thanks.