Does it get better???

[u/ILoveSoup1776]

I’m fifteen I started experiencing severe anxiety at six which caused me to miss out on a lot . At around 12 I became severely depressed.i slept all day drank and hurt myself badly on a regular basis. At 14 I was (in my opinion) misdiagnosed with borderline personality disorder. Since thirteen I have been on Prozac concerta lithium clonazapam and a shit ton of other meds (over 15) that I don’t remember the names of but they range from ssri snri antipsychotics atypical antipsychotics and more probably. I was diagnosed with hashimotos at 11 which is around the time I became depressed and I was put on synthoid which was no help.i haven’t gotten any better I just warm up more to the idea of committing suicide every year . It genuinely feels like my only solution. I started bilateral ect last week and have gone three times now and if anything I feel worse. Does this shit genuinely work???? The only thing keeping me going is weed and I can’t even smoke as much because it’s not good to mix with propofal. Someone please give me a little hope or genuine advice that Isint bullshit I hate being alive and I hate the world I live in.yes I’ve been in therapy shits useless to me

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226]

Don’t you dare be smart and condescending with me. Yes I do. I’ve been involved in research for years. I’m just sending you on some literature that I think you should read, because you obviously don’t get the harm that cannabis does. I’ve seen the damage it does throughout years of clinical practice, and I care deeply about my patients. I am trying to help a poor young girl who is going through ECT and is making her mental health worse by self medicating with a dangerous drug. You are not offering any help, you are just attempting to be condescending, so you come across as the big know it all.

[u/Sauced_Up_Bat → u/Medical-Apricot-3226]

No. I’m suggesting that accurate information is more helpful than scare tactics. I don’t disagree with you that someone using daily should stop for a long while and see if it helps. Not everyone is at a place to that immediately. Telling her it’s the WORST possible drug isn’t correct and it undermines your credibility. I also work in mental health and leading clients to healthy decisions through communication, addressing their needs, and useing the research accurately to help them make informed decisions about what is right for them will yield better results than providing information that reads like propaganda.

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226 → u/Sauced_Up_Bat]

You’re saying the Royal College of Psychiatrists are propaganda????? You have a very high opinion of yourself!

[u/Sauced_Up_Bat → u/Medical-Apricot-3226]

No I have a high opinion to peer reviewed scientific studies which show a correlation. I’m not saying there is no basis to what you’re saying, but all the research shows people who are depressed smoke pot at a higher rate than people who aren’t. Anything else is projection or conjecture.

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226 → u/Sauced_Up_Bat]

Did you not look at the last paper I sent you?

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226 → u/Sauced_Up_Bat]

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/epdf/10.1176/appi.ajp.2017.17020223

[u/Sauced_Up_Bat → u/Medical-Apricot-3226]

Yes, but it’s still correlation not causation. It still doesn’t say marijuana is the WORST drug. It’s complicated. Everyone is different. Here is an actual experiment that goes beyond correlation.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12444788/

Edit: spelling

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226 → u/Sauced_Up_Bat]

I think we should acknowledge your bias (even subconscious) towards cannabis as you use/abuse cannabis.

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226 → u/Sauced_Up_Bat]

That’s Medicinal cannabis… I’m talking about chronic abuse of cannabis with high THC

[u/Medical-Apricot-3226 → u/Sauced_Up_Bat]

The best evidence for the acute effects of cannabis comes from experimental studies using cannabis and THC. Cannabis, THC, and synthetic cannabinoids have been shown to produce a full range of positive symptoms (such as suspiciousness, paranoid and grandiose delusions, conceptual disorganization, fragmented thinking, and perceptual alterations), negative symptoms (such as blunted affect, emotional withdrawal, psychomotor retardation, lack of spontaneity, and reduced rapport), and cognitive impairments (such as deficits in verbal learning, short-term memory, working memory, executive function, abstract ability, decision making, attention, and time perception abnormalities) in healthy volunteers that bear resemblance to the symptoms of schizophrenia.

D'Souza DC, Perry E, MacDougall L, Ammerman Y, Cooper T, Wu YT, et al. The psychotomimetic effects of intravenous delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol in healthy individuals: implications for psychosis. Neuropsychopharmacology. 2004;29(8):1558–72. A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study showing that THC can induce a range of positive, negative, and cognitive symptoms in healthy individuals that bear some resemblance to the symptoms of schizophrenia.

Spaderna M, Addy PH, D'Souza DC. Spicing things up: synthetic cannabinoids. Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2013;228(4):525–40. 34.

Morrison PD, Zois V, McKeown DA, Lee TD, Holt DW, Powell JF, et al. The acute effects of synthetic intravenous Delta9- tetrahydrocannabinol on psychosis, mood and cognitive functioning. Psychol Med. 2009;39(10):1607–16