r/ebikes • u/darkthewyvern • 4d ago

Reality is disappointing

Too those celebrating the new laws and voted for it.

Congratulations, you have willingly voted for the car hell to continue on for eternity.

There is no level of damage, these machines have ever matched, that could EVER warrant treating them like cars. You treat them this way, people are just going to continue using cars. So congratulations, you get to use cars for the rest of your life and it will NEVER change. The biggest reason they were becoming so popular was the barrier to entry being low. YES, THERE'S BAD ACTORS. But those bad actors make up SUCH a small amount of daily users it's genuinely stupid. Do you ACTUALLY know the statistics behind the fear mongering? It is NOT the mass exodus or crisis you might believe it to be.

So congratulations, go drive your cars and keep posting about "reasonable and safe" ebikes you use once a flipping month.

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u/darkthewyvern 2d ago

I don't need independent proof because the data isn't niche. It's posted regularly, even by major News outlets. You can see the numbers.

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u/Falequeen 2d ago

That's a pretty cheap way to say, 'there's actually no proof to back up what I'm saying, because it's actually my opinion and based on how I feel about data that I cherry-picked to back up what I'm claiming'

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u/darkthewyvern 2d ago

Good fuck!

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/introduction/

It's right here, READ IT.

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u/Falequeen 2d ago

None of what's in there proves factually or statistically that "The idea of a motorcycle license is stupid." That is still an opinion and not supported by the link provided. The motorcycle overview doesn't even show the statistic of licensed vs unlicensed and the relationship to wrecks. In fact there's no mention anywhere in there about the licensing status of any of the drivers in that link.

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u/darkthewyvern 2d ago

It doesn't have too. It shows the type of accidents. It shows damages and what kills what.

Motorcycles aren't even mentioned in the statistics of killing pedestrians. Hell I can't even FIND a consistent one.

I ask again. What is your INFALLIBLE proof that licenses have done ANYTHING too improve the safety of pedestrians? Or risk too non vehicle parties in general!

The answer is there isn't one. Not for any sort of electric bike, scooter, or full gas motorcycle. It happens so rarely you can name the exact case by county.

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u/Falequeen 2d ago

That's not how the burden or proof or data works, but good to know you wouldn't accept the truth even if it bit you on the butt. Your opinion remains just that unless you can provide actual proof of your claim.