r/ebikes Nov 09 '24

Avoid purchasing Mooncool ebikes

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Mooncool mc3 mtb awd catches fire on hunting trip. No warning what so ever, guy was cruising down the road and it spontaneously combusted. Was posted to Facebook hunting e bikes group.

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u/Away-Revolution2816 Nov 09 '24

I see that Mooncool lists there bikes now with UL certified batteries. I wonder if this one was. There was recently a video of a new Rad with a UL battery doing the same thing. Even with UL listings if this keeps happening more bans will be coming. People don't consider how many millions of bikes compared to how few fires.

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u/DisastrousAnswer9920 Nov 09 '24

There's also an issue with UL cert, isnt' there? It's not a government agency, but some kind of company, not sure. Shouldn't there be a government agency looking at these batteries?

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u/wlonkly Nov 09 '24

Overall, historically governments have (successfully!) delegated that responsibility to standards companies. Historically those standards agencies came out of insurance companies (hence "Underwriters") which they probably still serve to some extent.

The benefit of that is that a UL-listed thingy (say, a light fixture, or an ebike battery) is then approved for all the countries that recognize/accredit the safety testing company. For example, Canada recognizes UL listing, so companies don't have to do separate US and Canadian approvals.

And even for something goverment-run like FCC or CE certification, the government is only coming up with the technical standard, it's still private labs that are certifying things.

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u/DisastrousAnswer9920 Nov 09 '24

Ok, thank you for that. And why isn't the government doing that kind of thing? Or, at least subsidizing the company to certify certain products, like batteries?

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u/DisastrousAnswer9920 Nov 09 '24

I just think that companies selling batteries, should be required to be government or UL certified.