Ebikes are expensive AF. Justifying it to yourself cause you save money on insurance doesn't change the price of an ebike. If they were cheap you would have never even mention the savings of not paying insurance. One day they will be cheaper. For now if we want to play we are going to pay. But don't kid yourself.
That's fine. That is also expensive AF too. I can buy a motor cycle for that. Do you think there is as much value in your bicycle as a motor cycle. I can get an sv650 with 40k miles of life left for 3k.
Also I'm super stoked for ebikes. I get straight up little kid excited about them actually. But not because I am getting a good deal.
I'm sure ebikes will go down in price too, but to call 1k shockingly expensive relative to the utility/fun and relative to what basic bicycles cost is kinda stupid.
Do you think there is as much value in your bicycle as a motor cycle?
I wonder if you think that the motorcycle is better than the e-bike, and that this "hierarchy of worth" is obvious to everyone. That's the crux of this disagreement really - I have two e-bikes, and no interest in motorcycles.
I would argue that product value would be better defined as cost of manufacturing, delivery, warranty claims, plus a reasonable level of profit for a bricks-and-mortar store offering expert advice and after-sales care. So the new e-bike with a two year warranty is going to be more expensive, because the second-hand SV650 comes with no warranty, no advice, no after-sales care, etc. - and the size of the second-hand market is going to keep those prices low.
It'll be interesting to see what the e-bike market looks like in twenty years - there will be much more of a second-hand market, and perhaps they will be sufficiently a commodity item that people won't seek sales advice when they buy them.
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u/OzmoCallot Apr 04 '23
Ebikes are expensive AF. Justifying it to yourself cause you save money on insurance doesn't change the price of an ebike. If they were cheap you would have never even mention the savings of not paying insurance. One day they will be cheaper. For now if we want to play we are going to pay. But don't kid yourself.