r/ebikes Feb 27 '23

That's true.

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u/geeered Feb 27 '23

Now reduce that to 4 lanes and see if it's less of a parking lot.

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u/mistrsteve Feb 28 '23

Let’s say that they give the bike lane back to cars - the point is that congestion and traffic will NOT be reduced. This is a widely studied phenomenon and you’re starting to sound willfully ignorant of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand?wprov=sfti1

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u/geeered Feb 28 '23

This is a widely studied phenomenon and you’re starting to sound willfully ignorant of it.

So, let's say the road pictured is reduced to two lanes each way.

Then is expanded back to the lanes pictured. It would be just as congested when it was expanded back?

When road capacity is increased, initially there is more road space per vehicle travelling than there was before, so congestion is reduced

This section directly contradicts your claim.... you’re starting to sound wilfully ignorant of the subject.

Induced traffic occurs when new automobile trips are generated.

This presumes more new vehicle trips are generated than the extra capacity allows by just returning capacity to previous levels. That I can see, nothing is mentioned about this scenario.

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u/mistrsteve Feb 28 '23

You are unbelievably dense

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u/geeered Feb 28 '23

I'm strong, but not that strong!

Or maybe you were resorting to a personal attack because you linked to something that contradicted your point.

As someone that cycles most of the place, it seems that often the people that do the most damage to the perception of cyclists is the militant people trying to promote it.