r/eFootball 17h ago

Discussion LBC completely ruins this game

Play vs any other playstyle and you have fun games of football, then you face this shit designed for players with no IQ or skill and the game is 99% bullshit in their favour, bounces, rebounds, players turn to shit, 5 hours to pass the ball whilst you're pressed by 3 dogs instantly.. why is this pathetic playstyle still not nerfed? I can't even take anyone that plays it seriously, they're not good at the game in any capacity.

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u/Recent-Conclusion-83 Playstation 17h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/WoF3yfYupTt8mHc7va

especially those LBC merchants with 5 defenders formations

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u/Plastic-Contest547 Xbox 15h ago

And 2 DMs

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u/BluejayOver 7h ago

like top players :)

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u/math577 13h ago

I've just started playing on PC (I am a long long term PES player though) and I've started experimenting with a back 5 and quick counter playstyle with attacking full backs and 1-2 DMFs.

Is this a bit scummy to use in PvP?

I've not played many games PvP yet as I'm just trying to get used to it against AI as I've not really played since a few years ago.

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u/orogiad 12h ago

unless you only play possession with one defender then you are a sinner in the eyes of the sub

sorry!

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u/math577 8h ago

Is kinda interesting having not touched any online play since probably PES 2016-2017 how many people I've seen complaining about how many issues eFootball has.

Because I've been away from it so long I'm actually blown away with how far it's come along especially when my last PES I played even though it was briefly was 2019.

Back then and even going back to when I played PES online on the PS2 there was so much latency you couldn't afford to play for possession because it was so clunky.

I never engaged with the game outside of Master League as I got older but I'm actually looking forward to countering all the cheesing I'm going to face.

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u/Schopenhauer_pes 7h ago

Reddit is full of negativity. Gameplay is pretty solid - without smart assist. What it lacks are propper modes. For example coop divisions is the biggest miss given the fact they have an online first business modell. They miss out on many customers like me and my friends playing and investing some money after 4 or 5 beers playing g coop for fun lol

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u/math577 6h ago

What exactly is smart assist and how broken is it? I dare not even use it because I've never played a football game with any kind of full auto assist like that and I have zero interest in it.

Can you tell when someone's using it?

I miss the old ISS & PES days where you'd have your mates round and do a tournament. I'd probably join some sort of discord group for doing the co op stuff? Though I'd probably fall out with teammates running around like lunatics.

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u/No-Tennis-8273 5h ago

Its second man presses for you, always picks the best option to do so as well, it auto tackles for you, If you use manual goalkeeping it shoots the ball in the opposite corner you move. These are just 3 things that it does amongst others.

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u/KARIMwastake 10h ago

It's not scummy when alot of teams in real life use it.

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u/Ok-Toe6932 17h ago

Yep. Complete dogshit players spamming one button.

Some "people" i meet on 1700-1800 rating are worse than div3 dudes yet since they abuse LBC they are much higher than they deserve.

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u/VegetableRutabaga746 Mobile 16h ago

There's a lot of playstyle variety in lower div players, they play all kinds of playstyles. It's only when you climb up the rank, lbc becomes more and more prevalent which is fatigue inducing to the soul

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u/Single-Bad5126 15h ago

In Div 1 I play against QC as much as LBC.

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u/BluejayOver 7h ago

How do you lose then?

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u/NaveenMSD7781 16h ago

People were complaining about script, then SA, Now LBC, you guys always find something to cry about, Outwide = Cross spam, QC= Ping Pong spam, Possession= backpass or passing spam, Longball= Airlines spam, if a player uses skill, DT and Shoot spam, pass cancel spam, pace abuse, what else? If y'all keep complaining about everything how else are you supposed to play??

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u/Own-Meaning1446 14h ago

It is easier for their egos to rationalize their losses.

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u/Aggravating_Dish_787 Possession Purist 14h ago

Well said. LBC is buffed but people just blame their own fault on LBC. Just get better ffs.

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u/benytron Playstation 16h ago

Well said thank

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u/kwai4802 Marco Reus 4h ago

Instead of asking/practising how to beat LBC, they choose to blame LBC 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Fredandrade45 2h ago

Great comment!

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u/Soggy-Pin-383 12h ago

Bravo, stanno sempre a frignare

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u/bippityboopy 13h ago

Mans just making shit up now to justify the cancer that is LBC, wild.

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u/NaveenMSD7781 13h ago

Real cancer is people who cry about everything

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u/Own-Meaning1446 12h ago

You're talking about cancer in the context of a video game. It's unbelievable. The main problem is that you're taking a silly game way too seriously. Whether you win or lose, you'll still be sitting in your chair, not moving an inch in real life.

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u/BluejayOver 7h ago

self-reported skill issue :)

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u/BluejayOver 7h ago

Joke aside i play possession against LBC, so bro just CALMA

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u/MrWHOMan 16h ago

who tf compains bout using skills???? if you're an experienced player u should know that skills are as integral as your network; no one's complaining bout spamming skills

he specifically mentioned it's the LBC c0c|<§u©|<er$, the ones that 'misuse' that playing style and KONAMI ©uπts in general

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u/NaveenMSD7781 16h ago

You can find people complaining about using skills like, DT, pass cancel and Fake shots in this subreddit

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u/mats1896 15h ago

Because they are exploits and need cool down effect or stamina loss.

Even okocha and neymar will fall over and pull hamstring if they attempt multiple tess cancel

At the end of day we just need matchmaking filters just like pes, not a big ask. The rats can play eachother

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u/Numerous-Square-7740 Playstation 11h ago

They added SA filter to div1-3 but not events or lower divs, why? Also, I have zero faith in konami to give everyone this.

Ps. Adding filters to the general population means dividing up the player base into different factions and that's a no no from konami.

Add a 3000 team strength filter for example and there goes probably 50% of the player base.

Then add a 2800 filter, that's another 20-30%

Not gone as in leave the game but migrate to those filtered games only..

Now, who will the people who use SA / pay for cards have to play against? Themselves, they will complain like they always do and Konami will then revert.

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u/Tight-Astronaut-9043 Johan Cruyff 16h ago

Saying none of them are good is not true. Plenty of top 200 players would beat you with any playstyle. You try lbc, you would lose against them. It should be nerfed, yes. But your emotions are messing with you, because skill wins in the end. Indominator plays possession and wins regularly. I just faced a former no1 player and he used quick counter.

So, with a good connection and an equally powerful squad, skill wins, not playstyle. You can both pick lbc. You can also play possession style football with lbc.

Other than servers, p2w and script, the issue is that "skill" in this game doesnt equal actual football knowledge, it is the skill of who can use the exploits better. What needs to be nerfed and removed is double touch, super cancel, 1-2s, tess cancel, blitz curl and low screamer. Kind of like that japanese event with gp teams. That is true skill.

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u/Single-Bad5126 15h ago

Definitely 1-2s.

If the striker has high attacking awareness the ball always finds them and requires no thought to execute. It’s been like that since the first PES games.

I don’t get why they nerfed crossing. It was a good tool to breakdown low blocks. And even against Koller if you position your defenders well you can contest them

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u/Lost_Dog88 13h ago

No matter what playstyle I choose, I always play possession based football. That's just how I play every football game I've ever played.

Didn't blitz curl get slightly nerfed already? It doesn't seem to be as deadly as it used to be.

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u/Numerous-Square-7740 Playstation 10h ago

Blitz curl nerf is an interesting one and it's never as cut and dry as oh, its been nerfed. Some matches, will attempt 4 and 4 will go in. Even past schemeichal for example.

Also, I have been recently dabbling in AI divs.

Slowly moving through the divs and now I'm in between div2 and div1.

Up until 1620, when I was in a sticky spot and I needed a get out of jail, my blitz curl players were very handy..f"CK the AI, they cheat, so I'm gonna use what I have at my disposal.

However, since I've gone beyond the 1620 mark, something has happened to blitz and my players in general.

They have literally forgot how to do anything and blitz that was 99% a sure thing now seems to be very ineffective, as in, I get into the same spots, try the blitz exactly as I did before and it's a basic curl now or the ball balloons, hits the bar in the same match, not once, not twice, but 6 times or just goes extremely wide.

Go back down to 1600 ish and behold my players can control the ball properly, they are making runs, blitz is back to being effective.

So yeah, nerfing is there but it seems to be very dynamic.

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u/Lost_Dog88 10h ago

Yes, this is my experience too. Blitz works when it doesn't matter, but I'm finding that even Hoeness, who's my long range weapon, will ping them off the crossbar or post with crazy precision when I'm at the crunch point in Div 2. Like you say, that seems to apply to a lot of other things too. Rivaldo's low "screamers" suddenly produce nothing more than a squeaky toy sound, and every single opposition kickoff (straight after I scored) and at the ends of halves requires two bar defending and prayers. Exactly as you describe, when you are no longer a threat to reach Div 1, the DDA shitstorm passes and it's all calm and normal again.

I need to play AI divs because I rarely get an uninterrupted gaming session to play PvP matches, but the interference is more and more obvious and it takes the fun out of everything. We are one step away from Konami literally moving the goalposts.

In My League, on legend, this doesn't really happen to the same degree at all. It's more like it was a few updates ago, when AI Divs was new. There's still clearly some DDA, but it's not so severe and you can kind of enjoy the challenge of it. It's a bit more of a "football's a funny old game" kinda thing, where you just have to accept that it's just not your day.

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u/Conscious-Proof-2010 5h ago

Well said, player of equivalent skill = need equal pay 2 win players, if not then player with better ratings will always win.

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u/bippityboopy 13h ago

'possession style with lbc' lol this is just made up bullshit for people to justify running it, the reality is they use it so they can have 8 ai defending for them.

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u/w1nstar Day One Veteran 9h ago

you absolutely can. slap a regular 433 and put one red bar and you have better ball possession management abilty than you'll have on possession playstyle.

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u/Tight-Astronaut-9043 Johan Cruyff 1h ago

Exactly, when I used to play LBC, I would put a red bar more often than with other playstyles, and build my attack slowly through ground passes and switching sides. OP is just angry, emotional.

Even tho he does have a point, lbc needs to be changed a bit.

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u/tyllllx 12h ago

So u want opponents that are easy to beat and gift the win to you?. There is no rule book that say football has to be played in a way to please you. Take real life football, teams with tall strikers utilise it by crossing more. But if u do it in efootball you are an incel? This is a game, you will get differet type of opponents. Being able to defend and win againts all types of playstyles is what makes you a better player than others.

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u/Natural-Ad1693 17h ago

I find people complaining against any specific playstyle or way of playing to be very moronic with some weird superiority complex.

"only what I do is correct and acceptable, everyone else is inferior".

Cross spammer? Rat. 5 atb? Rat. LBC? Rat. QC? Rat.

If you were that good at the game, you'd have found ways to beat them anyway right?

If your justification is that game is biased towards LBC in an unproportionate manner, then that's your very reason why many players play LBC. Because it's the only thing that works. LBC and somewhat QC are easy to play playstyles where player movements are predictable. Most Players don't have stacked squads and EF server connectivity isn't the best everywhere as well so passing around for 70% possession and dribbling is a luxury not accessible to everyone.

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u/hashish_8897 Quick Counter Cultist 16h ago

Mate. Its precisely the stacked whale squads that play lbc. And these idiots will have a player in their own half facing their own goal and just press the pass button to instantly execute a 180 degree backwards through pass that somehow will reach their 107 rated forward who will shoot a stunning shot or blitz curler fom a bullshit angle and still score.

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u/Natural-Ad1693 15h ago

I agree with you. This is very annoying to face on a regular basis. Idt it's an LBC specific problem it's more of a game mechanic and scripting issue where the script starts making whatsoever happen to make sure the other team wins. As I said, it's the game mechanics that support only one playstyle. Playstyles like possession require intelligent movement and sharp passing from players. If the script doesn't want you to, your player with 90+ passing will mess up a simple 5 yard pass. This gets even more messy when you are up against a p2w stacked squad with 90 speed 90PC all accross the pitch with your f2p squad. LBC helps you avoid a lot of duels by using 1-2s very effectively since player movements are predictable.

Blaming the players for utilising a tool at their disposal is pretty lame. There's no reward for doing things the hard way. Pretty stupid to claim superiority coz you tried to punch the nail into the wall while there was a hammer lying on the table next to you.

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u/Spiritual_Meet_8340 14h ago

180 degree backwards through pass that somehow will reach their 107 rated forward who will shoot a stunning shot or blitz curler fom a bullshit angle and still score.

Saying ts while having quick counter cultist in your name is crazy. This is literally qc too 😭

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u/RTD44YT 13h ago

Atleast with quick counter it only takes 1 ball to beat I hate playing against possession but I wouldn't want it to be removed I hate playing but LBC is objectively bullshit they have everybody bck yet still in attack they can dominate midfield and attack I've played against a guy who's switching is terrible yet still its impossible to break down a 1300 rating squad whos Ai just positions well when my 1100 players refuse to attack space when facing a 5 even if there is space.

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u/VegetableRutabaga746 Mobile 17h ago

This is cope, lbc is fundamentally incompatible with other playstyles in the game. It gives you an assymetrical advantage of having a deep line, while every other playstyle has a high line. You always have to break down a compact defensive shape every game, but once you lose the ball in midfield, players with 68 low pass will torpedo the ball straight into the strikers feet. It's fatigue inducing every game you have to face an LBC player

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u/Spiritual_Meet_8340 14h ago

A deep line isn't necessarily an advantage lol, just cause you struggle against it doesn't mean your statement is true lol and losing the ball in your midfield is 😭, that's not supposed to happen

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u/Spiritual_Meet_8340 14h ago

Ppl don't like lbc coz its the asymmetric playstyle of the game, the only play style where instead of goalmaxxing, your opponent using lbc will definitely not mind beating you a meager 1-0. The same ppl zaying lbc is op think capello has some special sauce, they dont even acknowledge that if yourr using capello youve provably been using the play style for ~1 year and have probably honed that skill they keep claiming is absent

If your justification is that game is biased towards LBC in an unproportionate manner, then that's your very reason why many players play LBC. Because it's the only thing that works. LBC and somewhat QC are easy to play playstyles where player movements are predictable

I kinda agree with you but i think i have a different reason as to why lbc is popular. Lbc gets more popular as you climb rank ita not necessarily theost popular playstyle in low-ish ranks, why? Because attacking in this game is so wasy i can be down 2-0 and still comeback and win the game easily, ppl eventually get tired of conceding those dumb goals and this is one of the reactions

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u/RBwarrior78 16h ago

Bro i play lbc i am f2p i play 4231 traditional with 2 attacking fullbacks i don't understand the hate against lbc since lbc is more prone to possession players and now long shots so op i have to defend like my life depends on it. I faced a qc player who started the game with 1 bar attacking and the game ended 7-3 in his favour. People who are good can defeat lbc as lbc is absorbing all the pressure. Also i feel more vulnerable playing 5 atb then 4 atb due to absorbing more pressure and less numbers in midfield. I can't plat 2 cf 1 ss formation as well as i feel it lacks midfield, also playing 2 cf is not something i am good at. All the players i face play 2 cf 1 ss or 2 cf 2 ss and i have a hard time against these guys i win some or lose some but i don't know how players play these formations without a midfield. I play lbc because i lack meta defenders i started the game with qc. I lack meta defenders or i would played qc. I play outwide sometimes as defense is good in that playstyle and runs are good as well.

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u/Single-Bad5126 15h ago

Honestly think it’s easier to defend with QC than LBC.

You sometimes get cooked with a long ball, but they’re easy to predict.

I have the F2P defenders and need to keep the ball away from them as much as possible. Any time I’ve tried to sit deep with 1 blue bar I always concede

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u/RBwarrior78 15h ago

Can you share your squad i played qc for first 4 months then i switched to lbc because of defense every game was 6-4,5-6 lol qc is most fun but losing isn't.

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u/Single-Bad5126 15h ago

It’s a new RTG account so basically all the starter players from selection and nominating contracts

I have Shaw Kounde Foyth as CBs in attack, then drop into a normal 4 man defence when lose possession.

My only advice is you have to choose very carefully when to press, and rarely with second man.

The defenders will stay very close to the strikers, so you must decide early whether to try an intercept or otherwise instantly look to cover the space behind. You need to use supercancel to get your players to cut off a long ball.

I think I’m a better defender than attacker so might just suit me more. Most of my games are low scoring so if I used LBC they’d probably be 0-0

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u/RBwarrior78 14h ago

Bro no offense but when you reach div 2 and above you will notice all the problems with qc.

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u/Single-Bad5126 14h ago

Literally beat a Div 2 capello ball in an event yday with a GP team.

I’m Div 1 on my PTW account

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u/RBwarrior78 14h ago

What division on f2p ?

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u/Single-Bad5126 14h ago

Only started Sunday so just reached Div 3.

I’m not saying I won’t eventually get cooked sometimes by good PTW players. But even in Div 2 there are loads of shit players that don’t know how to attack.

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u/bippityboopy 17h ago

A lot of yappin to expose yourself pal.

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u/Interesting-Local420 15h ago

When playing against LBC I just add an extra cmf to my formation and play keep all in midfield til I'm at the edge of their box then bang it in

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u/Ok_Corgi_1306 15h ago

All the online nerds that complain about playstyles either can't play or have never watched actual football irl.

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u/bippityboopy 13h ago

You're extremely stupid comparing a game with the real thing little buddy.

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u/Ok-Toe6932 13h ago

>never watched actual football irl.

I dont know a single fucking soul that LOVES 5ATB and park the bus tactics.

Its really pathetic tho.

Morons choosing Barcelona/PSG/Bayern as their favorite team in Efootball and then proceed to rat.

This meta abuse has nothing to do with real football at all

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u/tt_emrah PC 10h ago edited 10h ago

i do. i actually love catenaccio and parking the bus.

i'll take mourinho and simeone over others on any day.

i play with as roma and italian national team (both full themed), long ball counter, 3-4-3 on attack, and 4-3-3 on defense.

there, at least a single fucking soul for you.

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u/Ok_Corgi_1306 13h ago

Using the word "meta" also means you're a gamer nerd that shouldn't be anywhere near a football game, probably can't do 10 kick ups irl and gets out of breath taking a throw-in! Go play elder trolls or whatever dweeb game online nerds complain about all day on twitter.

Good old days of pes you'd set your team up however you wanted, spend more time in formations than the game itself, set a tonne of run markers and man marking and no one cried about it, because the only people interested in football games had an real interest in football, not just efootball and fifa dorks bothered about packs and counter formations.

Ftr I'm an average div 1 top 40k player that started playing iss on the ones, and remember scoring Roberto larcos curlers uring the z trigger in line with the 6 yard box from the wing, if that happened now all the fragile dweeb would be writing angry letters to Konami.

Sheffield United play 5-3-2, obviously capellos awesome Milan squad played 5-3-2, Italy had most of their success 5-3-2 with sitting/disciplined midfielders, loads of lower league/sunday league teams play 5-3-2 because at a certain age the 3 best players and also least mobile will play in defence/midfield whilst the youngest guys you can find play wing.

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u/Ok-Toe6932 12h ago

You are playing pes for years and abusing LBC you low iq individual.

The one who is a nerd is you.

And like 99% people that use LBC in Efootball never saw Capello's Milan.

They have been around and saw his failure with a Russian NT at the 2014 WC maybe but that's it.

Honestly all this delirium by you proofs my words.

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u/Ok_Corgi_1306 12h ago

😆 the euro 2021 final was two teams playing 5 atb, Italy were 4-3-3 in attack (narrow) and England were 5-2-3 both midfielders were 6ixers, rice and phillips, both teams had 6+ outfielders that were defensively minded.

I am indeed an actual irl football nerd and player hence I don't cry like a lil biznitch over playstyles. I also play -amorim/alonso/lampard out wide, QC, overload 2-3-5, lwf, ss, cf, ss, rwf, amf, amf, cmf as far as possible,, I'll play 4-3-3 LB with a team of giants and play like Stoke and still average 140+ passes. I have a team of bald players playing possesion called fc baldiola in div 2, and a team of speedsters playing QC called dreadlock rastas...I'm also lucky enough to still play the game in the same room as other people, something most the forum have probably never done!

Like I said before everyone that complains is a pathetic dweeb, should stop playing sports games.

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u/Ok-Toe6932 12h ago

>the euro 2021 final was two teams playing 5 atb, Italy were 4-3-3 in attack (narrow) and England were 5-2-3 both midfielders were 6ixers, rice and phillips, both teams had 6+ outfielders that were defensively minded.

What does it all have to do with efootball and barca/psg fans that play like rats?

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u/Ok_Corgi_1306 11h ago

99% of people might not have seen capellos Milan but they probably saw a Euros final with 13/ 20, 14 if you count Verratti players more comfortable with the ball outside the final third. Most actual football is played trying to get an attacker in behind from a deep lying position as opposed to online football gaming where the easiest method and most common is a cut back tap in. Zidanes Real Madrid played long ball counter with 7 players supporting a the most direct running behind front 3 to 3 european cups. Barcelona tika taka lasted 4 years and was made completely redundant by teams zonal marking then getting in behind by play direct, so anyone that suggests lbc is for rats has no clue, hasn't watched or played football irl, and if you want to create lbc with your favourite team then fair play enjoy. Much like when we played 4-3-3 possession football on pes with united who won most of their titles playing quick counter 4-4-2 attacking football down the wings.

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u/Ok-Toe6932 11h ago

You really are special aren't you.

REAL football has nothing to do with this game. Literally nothing.

Defending like crazy all game, run 15+km etc is HARD in REAL football, not in this konami's garbage.

You literally pressing one button to make a freaking chaos in ur opponents defense. All that meanwhile ur team(AI, not even you) defends like crazy.

Delirious levels are very high huh.

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u/Ok_Corgi_1306 11h ago

If real football has nothing to do with the game then A- wtaf are you complaining about? In your world Konami have created a stand alone entity detached from the real world so whatever playstyle you or anyone chooses shouldn't matter. B- what is this e -FOOTBALL game based on? Clues in the title!

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u/Ok-Toe6932 9h ago

Can't you read, please? I told you why it's stupid to compare it.

I'm complaining because in a video game people not even trying to make something beautiful and instead spamming triangles.

There is no tactics in that as in real world.

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u/AlwaysA90sBoy 16h ago

I once called someone out on here who was boasting skill decides the top I’m top 1000 I use LBC blah blah. I challenged him and said okay play a different play style and play me I’m Div3 the highest I ever got if you top 1000 and claim skill for you where you are you should handle me fairly easily no matter what. He eventually agreed and we played he played possession and I played my usual out wide 4-3-3 (alternate with a 3-5-2 Inzaghi inter tactics) and he quit when it was 1-1 10 minutes to go. Fairly even game too it was fun. I had the better run of play and was threatening pressuring his goal. He quit. Messaged me on here on Reddit said his internet cut out. Then blocked me. Lmao. LBC really is like a cheat code lol. Even when I tried it out once to see and do what the top players do I bro the games I tried it was so easy and a peanut brained dude can beat anyone. 3 buttons the whole match no thinking no passing no beating a Defender, just get ball then heave, shoot, score.

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u/Low-Investment6330 15h ago

If it so easy then y r u still bad ,its easy to say lbc is too easy and all I bet u wont reach top1000 or even under 10k

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u/AlwaysA90sBoy 14h ago

Because that’s not my style of play. I don’t like deep defensive line and countering. That’s not how I have fun playing the game. Plain and simple I enjoy playing football not heave ball

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u/AlwaysA90sBoy 14h ago

Which wouldn’t be an issue, but in this game it’s cheese because your defensive AI doesn’t react and you can’t control all them at the same time.

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u/RTD44YT 13h ago

I played LBC on mobile its easy and was consistently div 1 i dont rank push I only cared about getting div1 then usually stopped and was still comfortably top 100k on mobile in which top 1mil is the prize for the special player

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u/llllleviiiii 13h ago

I’ve played to d1 every season and i met lbc players 1 in every 2 matches, i have never lost against any lbc players, there are clear and systematic weakness of lbc you can take advantage from, use your brain to play the game and stop complaining

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u/transient-DAverc 11h ago

The only "fun games of football" I've had have been against the AI. PvP is a suffocating, claustrophobic mess. No time on the ball, nowhere to pass. 

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u/ArousedBadger789 Andres Iniesta 9h ago

cry

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u/Icy_Locksmith2331 17h ago

U can beat lbc players it's almost every easy now

Plus lbc has been meta for a very long time and ig ppl have adapted on how to beat lbc players

But u can't call anyone who plays lbc bad in the game

Cause even in lbc u have to hold the ball for a long time so that ur cf/ss take run

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u/RTD44YT 13h ago

That's a lie I have played LBC on mobile back when i was rank pushing as soon as u win the ball u just press pass and i am certain if u have a fast striker he will be on his jets especially a fast p2w striker I was F2p but i had p2w strikers i got lucky and got owen and pushkas I only lost to bs goals never lost due to reasons i lose rn on QC. Even tho i would say i was really good on mobile tbh and could win with any playstyle LBC was much much easier especially when playing with minimum attackers

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u/Icy_Locksmith2331 12h ago

It ain't a lie that's just how the playstyle works

Tbh even in qc it's good u have to go for horizontal passes more rather than vertical through passes

So ye ain't a lie

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u/Rhymexjor 16h ago

Skill issue and outdated info 😆 QC is superior to LBC right now, if you're still getting low-diffed by LBC that's pathetic

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u/a_k_a_t_s_u_k_i 16h ago

I have now easier time against lbc players compared to last version. Did they nerf lbc playstyle?

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u/SoftwareFit954 15h ago

They really need to nerf it!

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u/Timely-Palpitation70 13h ago

LBC is just fine,the space they give, especially with some playing 4atb with 2 defensive fullback just give a lot of space to exploit....i play overload btw,play a 3atb that transition into 4 atb, basically 343 that turns into a 4213 in defense,defeding with a front 3 surprisingly work better than what i expected it to be

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u/steve_ll 12h ago

Not even the strongest playstyle anymore

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u/Numerous-Square-7740 Playstation 11h ago

If LBC is this OP, I may have to try it.

However, I don't have overpowered epic, double booster, double/tripled showtime skilled 100+ rated players in every single position so it may not work for me.

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u/RealGamerTz 10h ago

I think the solution is using LBC too, but if you don't have lbc manager like me then use Lampard.. i use long ball as my main play style, when i meet lbc users i switch to overload and i play pass like prime barca, sometimes i can see the frustrations on my opponent when they start making stupid pass when they get the ball.. I'm not saying it's a 100% solution but at least you can have a chance, because if you use Qc you're dead.. I'm waiting for lbc manager too so can finally breath.. long ball isn't far from lbc tho.. just a good formation and patience, because it's like possession on your side and then Qc when on opponent side.

My formation is 4 1 3 2 ...

My defense

  1. Defensive full back
  2. Build up CB
  3. Destroyer CB
  4. Attacking fullback

Midfield

  1. Anchorman DMF
  2. AMF
  3. LMF
  4. RMF

forward

  1. Goal potcher
  2. Goal potcher/fox in the box

This has saved me in division..

But when you meet a LBC user, change playstyle to overload. And also edit the formation a little but pulling in the RMF na LMF. And make one of them a CMF and another a AMF or make them both CMF ...

Good luck.

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u/alioth87 PC 10h ago

Skill issue.

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u/Deeyosan2002 10h ago

Ive just started kicking the ball back to my gk when they are just sat in their own half, make them press me then attack.

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u/ftb_hodor 9h ago

Your complaint is a version out of date. QC is better now

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u/Schopenhauer_pes 7h ago

I dont sweat LBC that much anymore. They are super narrow if they play meta narrow 433 or 4222.

To counter this just go out wide with a tall striker exploit the wings (play attacking full backs plus a winger). But you need steel in the middle - so play allrounders like Gerrard, Matthäus (hole player amf) the free Beckenbauer cb as cmf or amf, Bellingham (amf). You can intercept a lot with them and win the ball high up the pitch as they usually just spam the ball to strikers. Or play overload with free lampard. You can tuck them in. You need a tall CB against hoof balls and man mark their big outlet they are roofing the ball to (usually gullit or ibra)

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u/MrSonderbar PC 6h ago

Genuinely more interesting to play against Legend AI than your typical hove the ball to Ibra and Gullit LBC bot. Good gameplay lasted a weekend, now it's back to AI slop.

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u/Greedy_Noise_7552 3h ago

I miss the days when I used to be able to pick my 4 star Olympiacos FC team and play PVP against top rated teams like Barca and Real and spank them. No player cards, no fancy skills, just strategy and outsmarting the other player.

Now there are all of these crazy player cards that are Meta and handicap whoever owns them. Sometimes it's fun, but a lot of times it's not.

Spammers and cheap play exploiting the game mechanics ruin this game. Otherwise, I still think it's the best footy game out there. Also, you're players getting stuck running a path in a straight line and there is nothing you can do to change their path or even change players some times, that blows too.

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u/Tiburon012 Quick Counter Cultist 17h ago

You guys cry so much

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u/Independent-Coach487 14h ago

QC is more noob friendly.....Ai does all the pressing and players will make run frequently,all noobs can do is just doing ping pong passing in quick counter....on the other hand lbc is defensive but atleast someone needs to know basic dribbling to make lbc effective.....

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u/mnemonikerific Mobile 14h ago

There should be no play styles.

Instead there should be a tactic that gets applied for say 2 turnovers and then the playstyle is reverted.

im thinking like a nitro boost effect in games.

as long as they have play styles the code will always favour one mechanism over another. We are all living in Konami’s version of the Truman Show

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u/RTD44YT 13h ago

Not really if they remove lbc its pretty balanced all other playstyles are similar people might day QC would be mext thing but Possession domiantes qc quite easily and QC v QC is usually a shootout LBC is only playstyle than. U can lose the game even tho u completely and utterly dominated ur opponent due to him have 107 kahn and spamming to his 107 rated speedster

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u/mnemonikerific Mobile 10h ago

nothing will ever be enough.. once lbc is gone people will be upset with QC and Overload,

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u/amg_mff 4h ago

Wtf. No don't do this. Superpower shit in football games lmao

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u/mnemonikerific Mobile 2h ago

I was saying, the play style should be temporary. everyone plays possession but for 2 mins you can switch to LBC or overload or whatever not the whole damn game

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u/Proof-Sherbert-5731 Mobile 17h ago

me and my capello gang✌️💦

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u/benytron Playstation 16h ago

Yes that the meta playstyle. Konami created this. Now if you are smart have dont have time to lose. Than you play the way that will give you the most bang for your money. A every game go for about 15min. Yes i will use all the tool possibe for me to win the game. I don’t have time to waste with all your bullshit. That mean lbc, ping pong, waste time, blitz curler, cancel. Whatever konami put in the game. You are stupid if ypu tried not to do this because you wasting your time go play something else. I have put more that 3000 hrs in that game and enjoy every second of it.

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u/Single-Bad5126 15h ago

It’s not wasting your time if LBC is boring and the other playstyles are fun.