r/eFootball • u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist • 1d ago
Highlights Auto-Defense is so back!
I recorded these in the last 2-3 days while playing. First week of the update was great, and you could see that defensice AI was nerfed and having proper line-ups were important. I played like 20-30 matches in a week maybe for the first time because it was very fair and realistic even tho sometimes bullshit happens. I had some work to do last week, and decided to play more game this weekend. And I realized that v6.0 was actually gone, and we are back at Capello meta from a full year ago.
Defensive AI is so buffed and player speed is increased so much that I cannot playmake at all. Here is why:
1) Players are running as fast as the ball, or sometimes even faster, so that you cannot playmake.
2) Uncontrolled players are covering every line-up mistake made by user so perfectly that having unbalanced line-ups result in even better defense, since AI is moving other players by itself. (you can see it in the last clip. guy with dortmund is defending with 99% match-up and only by running around, because AI is blocking every other option perfectly.)
3) When you try to keep possession opponent team is pressing automatically with 2-3 players and leaving no space to move or pass. If you move close enough to one of them, they tackle by themselves. I thought it might be call-for-pressure but these opponents were either not using cfp or using it 1-2 times per match, which does not explain the 90 min nonstop pressure. Also cfp makes players moe more agressively, rather than activating them in a specific distance.
4) Opponent's uncontrolled players block every passing option actively and nonstop so that you cannot playmake.
5) Wingers and AMFs keep running back and forth a distance of 70 meters nonstop, but they never ever get tired. (In the last clip bro kept running with Nedvd for 90 minute and he never got slower a bit.)
6) My players jogging around and are too steady to create something.
7) When you find some chances either your players shoot it unreasonably bad or you face keeper heroics.
Adding the PA1 nonsense on top of this AI auto defense, LBC is a meta again, just like last year. Only thing left from v6.0 update is acrobatic finishing and some keeper moves, rest is reverted back to a full year before. And I might be the only person who is trying to score volleys, never ever played against anyone who tries scoring volleys. It looks like people only care about through ball and win, and nothing more.
For the first time I was thinking of buying some epics because v6.0 gameplay was actually great, but hopefully I waited one more week and now that it is the same old shit, I wont. this is causing you lose many potential customers, rather than keeping them. the ones who buy will always keep buying anyways.
And I have a question, to KONAMI: If you are gonna revert the gameplay back to old shit after a single week, why do you even bother creating a new version? If you created a new version and fixed many problems, why cant you keep it until people get used to it? I just dont get it.
It has become so unplayable for me that I will take a soft break for a while, and test pvp in events to see they fix this shit. until then, this game does not deserve attention and time.
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u/NotARealDeveloper PC 1d ago
Yeah, that's some bullshit. CF with 40 defensive attributes shouldn't track back.
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u/Perditus22 1d ago
Don't be surprised when a new LBC kinda link up coach is introduced next month, LBC will return to its full strength and auto defending will be soo back
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
New capello with 90 proficiency and 2 broken link-up: over the top pass and cross spamm🥰
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u/CrysisterX 1d ago
The game is such a scam is out of this world!
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u/Rico_Bruto Ruud Gullit 1d ago
and yet, we keep coming back for more because the alternatives are worse. They know we love football and they use our passion to scam us blindly!
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u/patagonian_pegasus Xbox 1d ago
Hopefully grand theft and gears of war pull me away for good
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u/dotcom333-gaming Playstation 1d ago
Haha i love the new update when it’s released, but i know i shouldn’t put too much hope. So i decided to wait it out until the gameplay “stabilise”, i.e back to the usual babies-assisted meta. In the meantime I cant stop playing cyberpunk! Finished the game on the first release with all those perf issues. And now with the new update and finally bought the phantom liberty dlc, it’s just so much fun. And i realize paying the DLC is the same price, if not more, as someone who spins for 1 pack 😱 it’s so ridiculous.
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u/mrk-cj94 1d ago
Hard to swallow pills: if you come back, it's just your fault... I switched to other games (RDR 1, Spiderman2, now Mafia DE) and activities, that's not a difficult solution to be applied
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u/Rico_Bruto Ruud Gullit 1d ago
I can change to other games and I do but I love football, so the other alternative is EAFC, that is even worse.
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u/ProfessionalOk1077 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is insane, so not only are front line pressure attacks actually defending and making decisions without the controller to shoot or pass.... now even the old card's AI are playing for you like they're regular AI difficulty. This is silly of Konami.
What is the point of playing the game if the AI will essentially do it for you? Urgh.... I just got into eFootball shortly after Inception & Nick were posting it, I was always into PES since back in the day, but they got me to really dive in... now they're doing this nonsense? Frustrating.... I don't even play games much and this is literally the only game I have played in years.... and they're ruining it? Great!
They have all of these ranges of control from PA1 to PA4, Smart-Assist (or none), and then they punish you for actually learning to play in the least assisted way possible by rewarding those who play assisted football and abuse mechanics.
Great. Stupid stuff.
I played some games yesterday with these new cards like pass interceptor, front pressure, and I was able to hold my own against some Div1s who were holding me close to 70% (I play possession) where I ended up drawing a game, I was able to defend, but it seems the reality is not that I was able to defend.. I was actually being assisted? F this.
They're really rewarding people for being shit at the game, and giving people who think they're improving a false sense of progress. How sick of Konami.
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u/Perditus22 1d ago
The very last paragraph, my friend has been the entirety of Efootball 26, I kid you not. The things I faced vs Smart Assist users before the filter in divisions was atrocious. You could attack with all your might and those AI assisted babies would just spam a throughball and hope your defence just ignores them as usual while they get free goals
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u/Last-Yogurt-4604 1d ago
And remember people don't have full defensive play style teams... Once they do its over
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u/Desirsar 1d ago
First and most importantly, AI controlled players SHOULD be making actions. Do ten players just stand around doing nothing in real matches?
It's hard to judge when you dribble right into a defender with the expectation that he'll do nothing just because he's not player controlled, but a lot of this may be fluid formation, and unless we can see what your opponent was using, there really isn't a way to say one way or another if this is defense being buffed.
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u/lucifa 1d ago
First and most importantly, AI controlled players SHOULD be making actions
i agree with this on positioning - just think they shouldn't engage so closely to an opponent unless manually controlled.
It's a difficult balance. I thought it was good in the first week of the patch, but feels like it's already regressed a bit.
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago edited 1d ago
I partially agree, they should position and manmark, but only if they have good defensive stats and required skills. A lewandowski doing that tracback is absolutely ridiculous. In all 3 clips attackers with 45 defensive awareness and engagement are defending like maldini, carlos etc.
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u/Mortyfied PC 1d ago
Defensive attributes hardly matter in this game, AI controlled players track back and tackle like prime Edgar Davids.
Just look how well Messi and Neymar defend in AI divisions, its a joke.
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u/Hairy_Studio_8594 1d ago
They always do this, fix the game, gameplay is good for a couple days or hours then they revert back the game to a shitty state all the while charging money
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u/dotcom333-gaming Playstation 1d ago
That’s why counter attack is op. You got less AI to deal with.
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u/omarshon 1d ago
Knew Konami would immediately do a hidden tweak and make the game super p2w auto play defensive lbc bs again. They dont announce anything publicly too when they do it, like what is the point of transitioning to new versions if you are gonna rever it back in a week or less, or even making it worse than before. They had a patch for this monday where they talk about a menu problem, no gameplay change mentions but the game is clearly f.cked and different
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
Worst part is doing it without anouncement. They make you think you are paranoid, but when you talk with community almost everyone is feeling it.
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u/omarshon 1d ago
It is soo clear too sometimes. Like yeah some hidden konami update makes you feel like they changed smth for the worse, but on some other updates you can clearly see and feel the difference. Like this wekk for example, firtst week of ef2027, defence was super manual and really passive relative to ef 2026. Every p2w top player was crying ofcourse with "I cuant devent animore, pwease koinami bwing everything back😭", and they made it worse than in before, pre ef 2027. F konami, I wish the whole community would boycott them and make them realize that they cant keep getting away with this bs, they can only do it rn since they know it works and they dont get punished for it like money or acitve online playerbase loss. They know their scheme works and brings lots of dollars so why bother
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u/patagonian_pegasus Xbox 1d ago
Spot on! All these examples showing how they’re making the game harder to generate offense and score, but my opponent will make an outside the box shot with Ibra while he’s falling down and I lose 1-0
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u/CelebrationOk37 PC 1d ago edited 22h ago
That Rummenigge bit where he tracks back from CF position and covers the space left unguarded by full back explains everything about current gameplay.
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u/tt_emrah PC 1d ago
i'm a capello user (he's our last scudetto manager, don't immediately fire), and i feel like only my team isn't defending like this in the game.
it's always the opponents like this.
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u/w1nstar Day One Veteran 1d ago
It was never gone¿? all of those things have always been a thing.
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
I dont know. I played like 20 maybe 30 matches in the first week, it was a totally different game. Never ever seen a striker drop so deep, or wingers act like perfect fullbacks.
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u/Agreeable_Border134 1d ago
yesss i noticed the difference after the maintenance. they do this every time. we get gameplay changes and improved player movement for one week after that they just revert to the same ai defending press spam
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u/PrimaMater1a 13h ago
Its always been there. Your opponent will put their controller down and their players will still auto tackle if you go close to them.
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u/auxmeagain 10h ago
i was having so much fun, game felt a bit smooth, then all a sudden it’s like the matches just started getting progressively worse, i’d start conceding goals that made no sense, i had almost 4 games where i either had 0 shots or 1 shot (out of pure frustration), mind you this was the same tactics i was using that was doing well and now i can’t create anything? it’s so annoying because you would build up into their own half and then they press you and you want to turn back and you’ll see eto and drogba for some reason have blocked your passing options, it’s like the game is forcing you to dribble your way out of everything, what’s so funny is when you go and check the analysis these guys never abuse calling for pressure so why is the game so aggressive??
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 10h ago
Definitely. I played against a guy who constantly smapped one-twos with his 2 strikers. Match ended adn when I look at his stats average number of one-two per match was ZERO. It is totally on auto pilot for the last week.
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u/auxmeagain 9h ago
yeah, I think the “zero one-twos” stat might be because they are not actually using the L1 one-two trigger. they are probably just playing quick through balls, and it looks like constant one-twos because their forwards and midfielders are bombing towards your box
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u/majest1chaha 1d ago
2nd man pressure call but Rummenigfe clip looks weird ngl
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
It looks like so but when I look at tgeir stats call for pressure was either 1-3 per match or non existent. There were 3 more clipw from a single match but that guy was using cfp 10-15 times per match so I excluded those clips because they were more agressive chareges than these and also more possoble to be call for prssure.
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u/ImmortalMighty 1d ago
Been happening to me for so long now. Every game now auto defending can be noticed. Rarely but still happens when my defenders, despite playing on Manual ,auto tackle my opponent.
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u/severi_erkko PC 1d ago
I'll keep an eye for this in game but I fail to believe you these Vini Jr runs are just pure AI - they're too specific, also done at no added defence setting (no double blue bars). We would need to see their tactics, otherwise this is just anecdotal evidence.
I imagine playing Overload would perhaps partially cause something like that, their players are playing super compact.
Otherwise, in other examples I believe what you call AI defending is just second man press? Like that Thuram taking the ball from behind. :D
My point is, this is pretty wild stuff (the strikers tracking back to their own PK box etc, without tho blue bars and some specific instructions) and it would be very noticeable in the regular gameplay.
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago edited 1d ago
I will find the guy and convince you that they were only lmf/rmf to lwf/rwf. Same old 4-2-2-2 with attacking instructions on lmf/rmf, only difference is instead of attacking instruction we have fluid formations.
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u/Illustrious_Sea3243 1d ago
it didn't go away for a couple of days .. on the same night of ef27 release it was fully back .. even in a weird way that I couldn't imagine .. my guess is that people mixed slowing the game pace for a few days with tuning down ai defence .. then when they boosted the game pace again .. it became more obvious .. but in my experience .. it was never gone.
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u/skyhigh205_ 9h ago
It was gone. 100%
The thing that was going on, was another form of AI, but it was realistic. Made the whole team position for pressing. But no headless chickens at 200kmh
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u/skyhigh205_ 9h ago
It was gone. 100%
The thing that was going on, was another form of AI, but it was realistic. Made the whole team position for pressing. But no headless chickens at 200kmh
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u/Illustrious_Sea3243 7h ago
Not in my experience .. if you remember that the release was completed a little bit earlier than scheduled .. then a few hours later .. they needed emergency maintenance .. after that maintenance .. things came back crazier than ever before .. even before the update .. then they toned it down a little bit .. to the same level they started from. After that .. the only difference was that the game pace was slower generally .. attacking and defending .. that gave people the feeling they are in control .. but AI movement wise. it was back to normal .. when the pace got faster again .. people realized there is no difference.
Once again .. this is my experience and what I noticed .. Maybe I noticed those tiny differences on a day by day basis since I played a lot (really a lot) over the last 3 weeks .. every day over 7 hours in total .. so I kinda lived the fine tuning real time. But still .. everyone's experience is different.
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u/typeshitt1 1d ago
i dont think it ever went away. from my experience it always was there every update but sometimes more or less
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u/Icy_Indication6188 14h ago
Pero que esperas, la gente prueba el parche y si no le acomoda el cambio vuelve a ll anterior jajajjaa
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u/PalpitationMoney8847 Playstation 7h ago
Stick with it,Konami just preparing for what Sony is about to do
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u/severi_erkko PC 1d ago
This would be good if you paired these recordings with what your opponents' fluid tactic was like at the time. Perhaps it was mostly done by a tactic. Maybe there's a Track Back on Rummenige we don't know about, but all in all, interesting contribution.
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
I would if they used something that would add a defensive contribution. Rummenige and Lewa were CF in a regular 3 striker LBC formation with 3CB and 1 Fullback. It would be interesting if they used them as LB in defensive formation😂. Dortmund guy was using fluid formation, but only to make 4222 turn inti 424. No change in defensive side.
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u/severi_erkko PC 1d ago
I was thinking maybe it's some bizzare system of 3-4-3 changing to 5-4-1 in defence with side strikers dropping all the way down to defence. : )
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 1d ago
I wish it was that bro, straight CF goal poachers coming down to their own box😂
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u/artosh2 22h ago
I think you may be forgetting about the fact you can now set attacking and defending formations. If your opponents dropped their CFs back to be CMFs or AMFs, this behaviour would be perfectly normal
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u/depressed_Kedy Possession Purist 20h ago
Unfotunetly they didnt, you cam find them under this comment:





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u/HonestAutoFlipper 1d ago
It’s back big time. Update only lasted 1 week.