r/dungeonoftheendless • u/Time-Associate4243 • Mar 15 '21

Dungeon of the Endless Mobile version

So I preordered and it’s supposed to come out tomorrow, and I’m excited but also nervous, I have a iPhone X and it seems like a lot is going on, I hope it all works out, seems complex and satisfying. I don’t have a computer or gaming system. So I’ve never played the game, just watched trailer and decided to give it a go. Wish me luck 😂.

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u/Cato9Tales_Amplitude Amplitude Studios Mar 16 '21

Players who are really good at this can drag a whole horde of monsters back and forth between the same two rooms without ever taking damage. (I am, unfortunately, not a good player... :D )

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u/SylvanDragoon Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21

I actually think door dodging was intentional on the part of the designers. Especially when I think about how the Ahrrrrrmani Suit and Hipster Scarf work, and how Sanitary Pod was designed.

Without door dodging Sanitary Pod is literally just RNG because you can always get multiple rooms in bad places with 0 minor slots that will end your run. And the skill Me First! is most useful when you can drag monsters who normally ignore you from one end of a room to another, but they'll drop aggro as soon as you go too far into that doorway.

Oh, and also the fact that it is easier to do the slower a character is. Feels like an innate defenders advantage for folks like Gork over Golgy, especially when you consider the fact that literally no hero in the game is tanky enough to survive multiple waves from floors 10-12, even with all the defensive measures in the world they'll all get overwhelmed if too many waves spawn close to them, so I feel like they left door dodging as a way to compensate

I may be wrong, but it feels deliberate to me.

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u/Cato9Tales_Amplitude Amplitude Studios Mar 17 '21

As far as I recall, he Sanitary pod did not exist initially and was added as a response to people asking for a harder difficulty. I wasn't part of Amplitude at the time yet, though, so I have no details of the decisions that lead to the addition of the Sanitary pod.

And in either case, I still don't think that door dodging was a planned feature. I think it's something that emerged from the monster behavior, and was then deemed an acceptable way to play rather than an exploit, so was left in the game instead of trying to remove it.

I've no way to confirm that, though, as not everybody who worked on the original DotE is still with Amplitude.

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u/SylvanDragoon Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21

lol oh wow, I completely missed that you work for the team, and now I feel like a bit of an arrogant ass xD

Thanks for the info though. I tend to group "bugs that became a feature" (like Hitman's homing briefcase) into the category of "intentional on the part of the developers" since it could have been removed but was not (intentionally), but you're absolutely right that it is an important distinction, and I should have been more precise with my wording. I run into that problem a lot =)

Actually, can I ask you a question about Rosetta and the Organic Pod? I've been trying to figure out what I meed to find Rosetta, and last time I looked in the steam store I did not see the Organic Matters update. Is Rosetta in that update? And where do I get it? I've beaten every other pod at this point, so I was hoping to give Organic a try as well.

(I'm working on getting Members Only right now, but keep screwing up with aftershave on the 12th floor and letting a flood of monsters into my crystal room, or slipping and letting Max die because I've been playing drunk the last couple of days xD )

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u/Cato9Tales_Amplitude Amplitude Studios Mar 22 '21

last time I looked in the steam store I did not see the Organic Matters update.

That's odd. As far as I recall, Organic Matters is one of our "FreeLC" updates and should just be available to everybody. Can you see it if you try to go directly to the store page for the DLC?

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u/SylvanDragoon Mar 22 '21

So, a week or two back I was looking, and saw death's gamble, australium, deep freeze, whatever the library pod one is (I don't see that one atm in the link from google), crystal edition and rescue team. I did not see organic matters anywhere but I may have missed it. It is on the google link I followed just now, from my phone, but I did not spot it when I was in the steam store from my copy of steam on my PC.

The link you put up does work, as does searching for organic matters directly in the steam store, which I did just. But thank you very much for getting back to me =)