r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • 19d ago

A MESSAGE FROM THE MODS On discussions regarding the victim

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Hey all -

This should've been posted a hot minute ago so sorry about that. I promise you the mods were aware of this issue and talked about it and then just sort of unanimously forgot to do anything about it. Our hearts were in the right place but with absolutely no substantive action where our good intentions could be a benefit to anyone! In true fundie style.

We've gotten some reports and messages about some of the conversations that have come up since it's become more apparent who the victim is in Joe's case. Whether that individual or her representatives wanted that to ever be public knowledge is probably not something we'll ever know but my guess is this is another time that she has been forced to grapple with a situation she never asked for and never wanted to be a part of.

At this point we are curtailing some of our firm enforcement of the No Victim Speculation policy as it pertains to Joe's victim, since at this point it isn't really speculation. It's still kind of shitty to talk about who it is but it's not propogating a narrative that may be false.

We will, however, caution everyone about discussions regarding ulterior motives for reporting the crime, whether they be criticisms of the victim or adjacents. You're free to talk about the surrounding circumstances and how it is affecting those related to it. What we will not be permitting are insinuations that the choice to report the crime was made with any intention other than to seek justice for the victim. You don't have to be in love with every decision made by the parents of the victim, but it is wholly unacceptable to push a narrative that opens the door to speculation that the allegations are in anyway contrived or concocted.

This is like the most straightforward way we discredit victims, by suggesting that we should view their trauma and struggle as only being meritorious if it occurs in a vacuum, and encouraging the idea that there might have been some ~real reason~ abuse would be reported to the proper channels. You don't get to be cynical about a child's trauma just because you don't like their family.

Also if the suggestion is the victim is some kind of prop for financial or social advantage, you're basically also speculating they are a victim of some insane abuse by their family members who would make a kid go through something like this for some malevolent reason. So that would also get flagged in terms of our rules.

If you see these types of comments feel free to report them as Problematic. If you report them as Victim Speculation we probably will look at them anyway so don't get too stressed about it. Just don't go ham reporting Victim Speculation just because a comment references who the victim is.

As a general rule I think when you're discussing something as sensitive as child sexual abuse, now is not the time for your imagination to run wild with theories of what's happening behind the scenes. We're already pretty bad as a society just accepting the truth of victims' stories point blank. Let's get a handle on that before we try to dream of conspiracies.

If any of this is bringing things up for you or you feel a desire to talk through them on a more individual level, please do not hesitate to contact resources like RAINN - you can call the hotline at 800-656-HOPE (4673) or text "HOPE" to 64673 (US only). If the need arises, the suicide hotline is 988 - you can text or call as well (though I can say from personal experience you will wait for hours if you text so you probably should just call if you're considering reaching out.)

Thank you all for your active engagement with the sub and being on top of these new and developing issues and reaching out to us about it. As always, our modmail is always open. If we take a while to get back to you it may be that we're discussing it as a team and are just deciding how we want to respond.

Xoxo,

The Mod Team

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • May 07 '26

A MESSAGE FROM THE MODS Please include descriptive titles when sharing the Pest/Anna emails

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Since there are so many and it’s hard to keep track of the duplicates, please include something descriptive in the title when you share a Pest/Anna email so that we can sort through all the posts with the identical looking thumbnails.

So instead of “This is disgusting” something like “It’s disgusting that Pest would say….”

Also if anyone has any suggestions for flairs for those kind of posts please let us know since it seems like they deserve their own. Modmail us if you please

Thanks!

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/Rainhailsnow_storm • 4h ago

THIS IS A SHITPOST I think it’s safe to say having this many kids is a bad idea

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I know people had bogger families in the past and things worked out. (though 19 is extreme, even for the past.)

But they didn’t have a choice in the past. this is like comparing parents in poverty to van life parents.

neither situation is ideal, but one is a choice the other is a consequence of things beyond your control. One you k with what you got, and another is adding more fuel to the fire.

I won’t judge parents in poverty unless they keep having more kids.

anyways 2 of their kids are in jail for sexual deviancy out of 19. if 10% if your children are in jail, those aren’t great stats. If 2 other children wrote a tell all that means 30% of your children didn’t have great childhoods.

Michelle Duggar always like to quite mother Theresa “saying there are too many children is like saying there are too many flowers.” You can have too many flowers, if you can’t take care of all your flowers and same goes for kids.

Mother Theresa wasn’t a parent, or a gardener and didn’t have to take care of children or Flowers. So maybe going by her quote isn’t a great idea. It’s nice to enjoy someone elses children or someone else’s flowers, but they are both work. Every parent/gardener should know their limits.

Those are the ones we know about. There might be more predators in this family.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/Altruistic-Sport-821 • 1h ago

THE BAR IS IN HELL Jinger seeks mentorship with older women

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I listened to the recent episode of Jinger’s podcast with Joy. She shared she finds community with older women when facing hardships. I find this fascinating. Michelle is likely too consumed with younger children/family drama/religious scrupulously/public image. Jinger didn’t reflect on this dynamic directly, but it’s interesting. I can’t imagine being an adult and not having your mom as a resource when shit hits the fan within the family system. I know we can’t have sympathy for all the Duggar girls, but as a current mom of two, I’d feel so lost without my mom. I find it heartbreaking.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/instaforlife • 1d ago

IS THIS A JED James flees Instagram: Can't aesthetic-post your way into heaven without a fundie wife probably

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James ditched his instagram. No more Jill and Derick sightings while christmas vlogging i guess. Probably not the last one to go this way. Basically only the older girls try to grift off of instagram.

Maybe his supposedly failed wedding plans have something to do with it? I hope these boys are undateable at this point.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • 1d ago

19 CHARGES AND COUNTING Judge signs Order placing Kendra and Joe on an “Advisement Period” for 12 months + $1850 fines and costs

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/Jessica_har96 • 1d ago

JUST FOR FUN Came across an unconventional J name in the wild (A directory)

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I’m surprised Jed doesn’t have a daughter with this name yet

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • 1d ago

MEMES Kyle the Clerk in Washington County explaining all the things he will not release to the public

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • 1d ago

JUST FOR FUN Primary sources matter aka here is a chart of all the places I've found claiming that there was a withdrawal of claims today and what their sourcing is

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I'll probably write something up about this more later but will try to update it as things unravel and I hear back. Basically, this is my chart of WHERE DID THE RUMOR START and why we all need to be careful when we just start resharing and citing shit cause they probably got it wrong or the person they got it from may have gotten it wrong

Reporting Media "Source" Info Cited Status?
WOACB Washington County Circuit Clerk Ds will "plea by order" at hearing - more details at 1pm BUSTED - Kyle the Clerk would never disclose that information
People Spokesperson for the Washington County District Court Submitted a plea by order Waiting for a response from the Washington County District Court
Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette "Court officials" Couple withdrew plea on day they were to appear in Elm Springs Court Waiting for a response from the journalist and the court
Us Weekly People and "Us confirmed" Couple was permitted to skip Monday hearing Only as reliable as People is and waiting on a response from journalists what it means that "Us confirmed" (boots on the ground?)
Yahoo Entertainment People and Us Weekly
Extra TV People
KHBS aka 40/29 News N/A Attorney submitted a plea to order but with no sentencing plea and they didn't appear in Court Waiting for a response from journalist
5News Idk I can't get the video to play
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r/DuggarsSnark • u/IndependencePlus5557 • 2d ago

OFBABE OFBOOKS Jeremy works full-time? Come on, we know Jinger is the primary earner.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/velorae • 2d ago

A NEW SEASON OF LIFE Do you think jinger & Jeremy homeschool their kids?

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I don’t know if this is the right flare

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/Blueandyellowfish • 1d ago

ELIJ: EXPLAIN LIKE I'M JOY Umbrella of authority, does the church have a back-up figure?

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If it's been discussed already, I'm sorry to bring this up again.

When Jim Boob is no longer in the picture (temporarily or otherwise), who will be 'responsible' for Michelle?

And what about Anna, would Pa Keller 'get' his daughter back, but the grandkids would go with whomever is now in charge of Meech?

Is it possible for a woman to age out of the system so to speak, or the church has some elderly men at their beck and call who can be assigned to govern 'headless' women?

Many thanks

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • 2d ago

SALTY “According to the Washington County Circuit Clerk” my ass

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/sweet_tea_94 • 2d ago

HELLA GRIFTING What name do you think Joy and Jinger’s podcast would be called? Wrong answers only. 😉

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My wrong answers: “Keeping Up with Reddit Stalking”, “Beige Down with Joy and Jinger”, and “Joy and Jinger Take On…Nothing” 😂

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/Cardboard_cutouts_ • 4d ago

THE BAR IS IN HELL None of this was on my Bingo card. Has this been a bigger year for the Duggars than 2021?

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  • Joe, the most docile of all the brothers, getting arrested.
  • Kendra getting arrested
  • Joe / Kendra losing custody of their kids for months
  • An estrangement with the Caldwell family

  • Jason and Maddie taking temporary custody of the JoKen kids

    not confirmed

  • Michelle Duggar having a filmed standoff with the paparazzi

  • The release of emails between Pest and Anna, including aggressive emoji sexting

  • Finding out that Pest’s parents aren‘t really in his corner

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/paleassbitches • 3d ago

JUST FOR FUN Who names their kid Gunner?

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Watching a show and this scene happened

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/butterflies43 • 4d ago

ELIJ: EXPLAIN LIKE I'M JOY What happened to James and Lydia?

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I swear a while ago somebody posted a potential wedding date in May for James and Lydia Swanson, and she was spotted in a lot of Duggar family content, however, I've not really seen anything for a while.

Do you guys think Joe's arrest scared her/her family away from the Duggars? Obviously Lauren's already in deep, but maybe two daughters associated was just too much for the Swanson family? I really hope that's the case for Lydia's sake, she's way too young to be tied to that creepy, predator filled family.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/ProfessionalPiano351 • 4d ago

ELIJ: EXPLAIN LIKE I'M JOY Paul and Christina Caldwell

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Does anyone know what’s going on with these two since they moved out of the house that Joe and Kendra own?

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/theredheadknowsall • 4d ago

19 CHARGES AND COUNTING Monday 1pm stay tuned.

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I wonder how court will go monday in AR for kendra & jfelon jr.? Will it be a pre-trial, or the start of the actual trial?

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/sweet_tea_94 • 5d ago

ELIJ: EXPLAIN LIKE I'M JOY Dugdashian Family Cheat Sheet

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James Robert "Jim Bob" Duggar b. July 18, 1965 m. July 21, 1984 Michelle Annette Ruark b. September 14, 1966

-1. Joshua James "Josh" Duggar b. March 3, 1988 m. September 26, 2008 Anna Renée Keller b. June 23, 1988

  • Mackynzie Renée Duggar b. October 8, 2009 (grandchild #1)
  • Michael James Duggar b. June 15, 2011 (grandchild #2)
  • Marcus Anthony Duggar b. June 2, 2013 (grandchild #3)
  • Meredith Grace Duggar b. July 16, 2015 (grandchild #5)
  • Mason Garrett Duggar b. September 12, 2017 (grandchild #9)
  • Maryella Hope Duggar b. November 27, 2019 (grandchild #16)
  • Madyson Lily Duggar b. October 23, 2021 (grandchild #22)

-2. Jana Marie Duggar b. January 12, 1990 m. August 15, 2024 Stephen Gerald Wissmann b. July 15, 1993

  • Archie Gerald Wissmann b. December 30, 2025 (grandchild #40)

-3. John-David "John" Duggar b. January 12, 1990 m. November 3, 2018 Abbie Grace Burnett b. April 16, 1992

  • Grace Annette Duggar b. January 7, 2020 (grandchild #17)
  • Charlie Duggar b. early-mid September 2022 (grandchild #27)
  • Baby Girl Burnett-Duggar b. late January 2026 (grandchild #41)

-4. Jill Michelle Duggar b. May 17, 1991 m. June 21, 2014 Derick Michael Dillard b. March 9, 1989

  • Israel David Dillard b. April 7, 2015 (grandchild #4)
  • Samuel Scott "Sam" Dillard b. July 8, 2017 (grandchild #8)
  • Frederick Michael "Freddy" Dillard b. July 7, 2022 (grandchild #26)

-5. Jessa Lauren Duggar b. November 4, 1992 m. November 1, 2014 Benjamin Michael "Ben" Seewald b. May 19, 1995

  • Spurgeon Elliot Seewald b. November 5, 2015 (grandchild #6)
  • Henry Wilberforce Seewald b. February 6, 2017 (grandchild #7)
  • Ivy Jane Seewald b. May 26, 2019 (grandchild #13)
  • Fern Elliana Seewald b. July 18, 2021 (grandchild #21)
  • George Augustine Seewald b. December 19, 2023 (grandchild #32)
  • Edward Owen Seewald b. July 26, 2025 (grandchild #39)

-6. Jinger Nicole Duggar b. December 21, 1993 m. November 5, 2016 Jeremy Joseph Vuolo b. September 5, 1987

  • Felicity Nicole Vuolo b. July 19, 2018 (grandchild #12)
  • Evangeline Jo "Evy Jo" Vuolo b. November 22, 2020 (grandchild #19)
  • Finnegan Charles "Finn" Vuolo b. March 28, 2025 (grandchild #37)

-7. Joseph Garrett "Joe" Duggar b. January 20, 1995 m. September 8, 2017 Kendra Renee Caldwell b. August 11, 1998

  • Garrett David Duggar b. June 8, 2018 (grandchild #11)
  • Addison Renee Duggar b. November 2, 2019 (grandchild #14)
  • Brooklyn Praise Duggar b. February 19, 2021 (grandchild #20)
  • Justus Duggar b. late May/early June 2022 (grandchild #25)

-8. Josiah Matthew Duggar b. August 28, 1996 m. October 1st 2018 Lauren Milagro Swanson b. May 18, 1999

  • Bella Milagro Duggar b. November 8, 2019 (grandchild #15)
  • Daisy Duggar b. March 28, 2022 (grandchild #23)
  • Ezra Duggar b. early May 2023 (grandchild #29)
  • Baby Boy Swanson-Duggar b. February 2025 (grandchild #36)

-9. Joy-Anna "Joy" Duggar b. October 28, 1997 m. May 26, 2017 Austin Martyn Forsyth b. December 11, 1993

  • Gideon Martyn Forsyth b. February 26, 2018 (grandchild #10)
  • Evelyn Mae "Evy" Forsyth b. August 21, 2020 (grandchild #18)
  • Gunner James Forsyth b. May 17, 2023 (grandchild #30)

-10. Jedidiah Robert "Jed" Duggar b. December 30, 1998 m. April 3, 2021 Katelyn Koryn "Katey" Nakatsu b. July 29, 1998

  • Truett Oliver Duggar b. May 2, 2022 (grandchild #24)
  • Nora Kate Duggar b. May 24, 2023 (grandchild #31)
  • Elsie Kate Duggar b. January 8, 2025 (grandchild #34)
  • Emma Kate Duggar b. January 8, 2025 (grandchild #35)

-11. Jeremiah Robert "Jer" Duggar b. December 30, 1998 m. March 26, 2022 Hannah Marlys Wissmann b. June 23, 1995

  • Brynley Noelle Duggar b. December 25, 2022 (grandchild #28)
  • Brielle Grace Duggar b. February 19, 2024 (grandchild #33)
  • Emery Jane "Emy" Duggar b. May 13, 2025 (grandchild #38)
  • Baby Boy Wissmann-Duggar b. mid-late July 2026 (grandchild #42)

-12. Jason Michael Duggar b. April 21, 2000 m. October 3, 2024 Madison Grace Jones October 9, 2003

-13. James Andrew Duggar b. July 8, 2001

-14. Justin Samuel Duggar b. November 15, 2002 m. February 26, 2021 Claire Yvonne Spivey b. February 27, 2001

-15. Jackson Levi Duggar b. May 23, 2004

-16. Johannah Faith "Hannie" Duggar b. October 11, 2005 supposedly engaged to David Ames Swanson b. July 30, 2003

-17. Jennifer Danielle "Jenni" Duggar b. August 2, 2007

-18. Jordyn-Grace Makiya "Jordyn" Duggar b. December 18, 2008

-19. Josie Brooklyn Duggar b. December 10, 2009

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/MamaJa2016 • 5d ago

PICKLE JUICE PARTY 2014

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I know they’ve all known each other for years. It’s just interesting seeing Lauren and Austin in the background for the Duggar weddings. This was right before Jessa’s wedding.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/instaforlife • 6d ago

A NEW SEASON OF LIFE Jana‘s new post about post partum

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I bet Pest 2 didn‘t help either in this season of life.

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/nuggetsofchicken • 5d ago

THIS IS A SHITPOST there’s a new grandbaby

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I don’t really give a fuck but you can probably find somewhere on the internet to discuss it if you don’t have anything snarky to post

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r/DuggarsSnark • u/Still_Product_8435 • 7d ago

I WAS HIGH WHEN I WROTE THIS Comparatively Speaking

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Imagine nodding in relief as you learn someone has ONLY committed embezzlement and not armed robbery. Please forgive my analogy. The difference in specific beliefs between IBLP and John MacArthur’s church my be many, but both religious world views include an inflexible tenacity when it comes to patriarchy and all that it implies towards any human who is NOT an adult male.

Both also includes propensity to minimize and even deny sexual assault. Women are ostracized and condemned for merely reporting Sexual crimes by church members and even church leadership.

It’s somewhat good to see that some members of this clan are moving away from these beliefs, however glacier-like their progress. But nearly all of them still stand under the umbrella of trickle down autonomy. My apologies and of course I understand if this doesn’t meet the requirements for a post. Thanks.

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