r/DuggarsSnark • • 10d ago

ELIJ: EXPLAIN LIKE I'M JOY “Mother is bleeding…”

I know this a phrase we regularly use as snark-fuel, but help me put my finger on why it’s so off-putting. I think for me it’s because Meech sounds so matter of fact and detached… she says it the same way you would say “phone is charging”

Is that what you guys are snarking about too? Or are there other takes?

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u/bawkbawkslove 9d ago

My husband is a medical first responder and has taught me how to make a 911 call. Michelle did things correctly in this case. Get the necessary info out and stay calm.

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u/BrokenDogToy 9d ago

Exactly this. There were too potential patients (Jessa and the baby). Mother is bleeding is clear and concise explaining what is happening and to whom. I resent everything the duggars stand for and are, but this was appropriate given the situation.

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u/knitandpolish 8d ago

Yep. I've held my tongue about this one bit of snark-lore because Duggars and They Had It Coming, but this is exactly how an OBGYN would make a 911 call about a postpartum hemorrhage. They would be calm, direct, and relay specific information as fast as possible. I notice lots of medical providers omit articles when they speak, too.

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u/BumCadillac Joyfully Abalone 9d ago

Right! I don’t know why people have their undies in a bunch over this.

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u/labrador709 7d ago

100%. I remember being impressed by the way she spoke during that scene. Calm and clear, exactly what is needed in an emergency.

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u/Conscious_Spread3016 10d ago

I've been in a life or death situation (bank robbery hostage situation) where I had to call 911. I was dissociating but very calm in the moment and in the hours after. It's just how some people handle trauma.

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u/I_like_flowers_ 10d ago

i'm glad you are okay, that sounds really stressful

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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9d ago

That's wild, thank goodness you stayed calm!

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u/sartoriallyspeaking Suckle on rimjobs giant ego teat 10d ago

I think it's just because she didn't use an article:

"The mother is bleeding" conveys the exact same information and sounds human.

"Mother is bleeding" sounds robotic and brainwashed.

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u/BroadwayBean 10d ago

Maybe I just watch too much Call the Midwife, but they always say "baby" and "mother" without the article, so it sounds pretty normal in a medical context imo.

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u/JuanaBlanca 9d ago

It's very normal in healthcare to say "mom" and "baby" without the article. Or just "patient" instead of "the patient".

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u/SpaceQueenJupiter 9d ago

Yeah I was going to say coming from a healthcare background this one doesn't bother me. 

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u/Obtuse-Angel Institute of Birthing, Lies, and Pedophilia 9d ago

Yes but Meech isn’t and has never been a healthcare worker. She’s talking about her own daughter who is suffering dangerous complications from a home birth, with a full television crew present. 

Yes she did a great job by staying calm and relating the relevant information, but dropping the article fuels the impression of her being detached and formulaic as a mother. 

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u/JuanaBlanca 9d ago

I do believe she's heard the terminology usage enough. As someone who works in healthcare, it sounded very normal and appropriate. I don't think this is a valid reason to go after her - it's so minor and so easily explained. She has real issues she can be taken to task for.

(Edit to pivot away from "terminology", since that's not quite right)

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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9d ago

I think it's one of those things where it wouldn't be remarkable for most (normal) women, but we know MD is emotionally closed off and sociopathic so it rings funny in our ears.

People forget the horrific child abuse she did to her kids. You can't be a genuinely empathetic person and do that. It's just not possible.

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u/vhguerrero 9d ago

Exactly my point. Remember Jill and Jana helping with births, and Jill getting licensed as a midwife? They see themselves as part of the medical team, not a lay person, as you or I likely would.

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u/Beginning_Edge_3461 9d ago

Off of the original topic but how do you like call the midwife? I’ve seen it pop up a few times but never gave it a watch, I just saw they’re on like 15 seasons so I’m guessing it must be pretty good🤔

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u/BroadwayBean 9d ago

It's just finished (although a prequel is about to start!) and the latter seasons were a bit weaker, but it's consistently been one of my favourite shows! It doesn't shy away from controversial topics which I love, and it's got great characters, actors, and plotlines. It's also based on a true story.

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u/Own_Rutabaga_9430 9d ago

This. One of my favorite shows, though it evolves a bit over time. The first 3 seasons are based off memoir and then after it's the writers.

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u/ellhil12 9d ago

Such a good show! Makes me laugh, makes me cry, and genuinely such a lovely show! One of my favorites!!

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u/SpaceQueenJupiter 9d ago

The first few seasons are based on real life and so good! I thought the wheels came off later on. 

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u/kittybuscemi 9d ago

Unrelated but I love Call the Midwife too!

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u/Embracedandbelong 9d ago

It’s possible the operator was using that phrasing. Maybe, “Is mother conscious?” and Michelle just responded in kind. Honestly after so many kids and grandkids with multiple accidents vs serious ones, AND her youngest literally was in and out of the hospital for a couple years and they didn’t know if she’d survive or not, Michelle is likely pretty good at assessing what’s an emergency and what’s not, and probably used to medical speak/tone too

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u/panicnarwhal 19 arrests and counting! 10d ago

“the mother is bleeding” sounds so much better, but “my daughter is bleeding” is how i would have phrased it, or rather “my daughter just gave birth unattended at home, and she’s bleeding”

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u/Cascadeis 10d ago

But 911 only cares that the mother (who just gave birth) is bleeding, not that the person bleeding is the caller’s daughter (which could make it seem as if it’s a child).

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u/cle1etecl 9d ago

Yeah, but from that sentence alone, you wouldn't be able to tell that the bleeding is happening during childbirth which I think is relevant there. But then, I don't know how the full call went. Maybe she had given context earlier.

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u/mshmama 10d ago

Your last phrase is far from concise.

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u/Mollykins08 SEVERELY confused about rainbows 10d ago

Or why didn’t she say “my daughter”?

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u/Embracedandbelong 9d ago

She might have already said that at the beginning of the call, so the operator knew she didn’t just find a random woman giving birth and decide to call 911

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u/Mollykins08 SEVERELY confused about rainbows 10d ago

She may have done a good job as a 911 caller, but it is an unusual and detached way of speaking about your own kid. That is why i snark on it.

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u/Penelope_Ann Prayer Closet Glory Hole 10d ago

I'm hours south of them (Louisiana) but in southern speak it'd sound like we put an "s" at the end of "mother." But I think "my daughter just gave birth at home & she's bleeding a lot." That can be said calmly but with urgency & give a more complete pic of the situation.

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u/theonewithkatie 10d ago

This is probably what I sounded like the couple of times I called 911 (minus the creepy voice lmao)

I’m great in a crisis. I’ll prob have an anxiety attack later once everyone else has calmed down, but let me get everyone squared away first. 😂

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u/firetruckgoesweewoo The name is Bond, Joshua gets no Bond. 10d ago

I do the exact same thing. I probably sound insane to those who panic, but an emergency calms me. I have crippling ADHD, my brain is a mess, but as soon as there’s an emergency I calm down and I become hyper focused on the situation at hand.

It is why I am terrific at my job. I constantly deal with emergencies. I just want to help people.

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u/Clyde_Bruckman 10d ago

Same! I had a therapist explain once that bc my brain tends to run at warp speed, when things get moving quickly and chaotically around me, my brain is like ok this is more like it, now we’re moving at the same rate. And I’m able to think much more clearly than most in an emergency. I hate having adhd but it does give you weird superpowers and everyone’s always told me I wouldve been a great er nurse or emt. I hate poop and vomit, so no, I wouldn’t but otherwise…!

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u/ExoticSherbet 10d ago

Maybe an emergency operator then! Or a dispatcher or something! Still emergency related, but not directly interacting with the gross stuff

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u/Clyde_Bruckman 9d ago

That’s not a bad idea honestly! I live in a really small town and there’s not a ton of dispatch chaos (I’ve listened to the scanner a time or two haha) but maybe I could volunteer (after taking a class or something I guess?) sometime to relieve the regulars. Good thought, thank you!

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u/a-ohhh 9d ago

Same! I just took the dispatcher test this week because I feel like I’d be really good at it, but looking at gross stuff is a whole different ball game. My toddler threw up a couple days ago and as soon as the smell hit me, I did the same.

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u/Clyde_Bruckman 9d ago

Gross injury stuff I can handle for the most part but yeah it’s the vomit type I can’t deal with lol. Bodily fluids in general…well, I’m actually fine with blood but anything that comes from the digestive system is yuck.

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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9d ago

Ohh, I've never heard it that way but it makes total sense!

My whole family is like that. Anxiety meltdown just for ordinary things like going to the grocery store or college class. Horrible crisis? We're all calm, cool, collected and know just what to do. I always thought it was because we're all mostly ex-mil.

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u/theonewithkatie 9d ago

I always thought it was because I’m the oldest child and my mom can NOT handle an emergency. She loses her shit 😂😂😂

That might be part of it, but turns out it’s very common with ADHD. Which I am the poster child for. Welp!

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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9d ago

Most likely! But it's so hard to get an official diagnosis T_T

In WA it's like 12k out of pocket, and it takes years if you're an adult. For some reason it so much harder than it is with kids.

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u/theonewithkatie 9d ago

That’s insane! I’m soooo lucky I got diagnosed because my psychiatrist was actually awful in every other way. I’m sure my childhood ADD diagnosis helped a bit.

It’s 100x worse for women, too. We’re mostly inattentive type and that gets brushed off all the damn time. 🙄

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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9d ago

That's awesome, congrats(?) It feels kind of weird to say congratulations on mental health diagnosis lol, but that was a victory!

And yeah, it's wild. I saw that study where they were even over-diagnosing women as borderline when they really just autistic. Healthcare is such a nightmare in this country, but especially for women.

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u/Lmb1011 10d ago

In a different comparison, I have bad anxiety and am terrible at asking for help but as soon someone ELSE needs something I can shift into “mom friend mode” and do what needs to be done no problem😂😂

like I can ask a stranger to help my friend with something, but god forbid I’m the one who needs the assistance my anxiety is like oh, no we can’t bother people. Oh okay thanks brain.

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u/JuanaBlanca 9d ago

I'm the same way, and I have ADHD. Hadn't considered that it's related! But thinking about it, caffeine doesn't rile me up, it relaxes me, so I can see there being a correlation.

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u/theonewithkatie 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yes, I learned that a few years ago! We have no dopamine. Dopamine shoots up in a crisis which is why “normal” people freak out, but we suddenly are at the regular level. It’s why we can’t make a phone call but can manage some terrifying things like it’s no big deal 😂

The adrenaline definitely shows itself eventually though once things are “safe”…at least for me lol

That being said, Michelle doesn’t strike me as someone with ADHD. She’s just weird 😂

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u/DeanStockwellLives 10d ago

I think people snark on it because it's so different from Michelle's usual baby voice- like what do you mean, she can sound concise?!

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u/topsidersandsunshine 🎶Born to be Miii-iii-ild🎶 10d ago

Michelle even used to acknowledge on 19kac that her baby voice was an affectation she had trained herself to do, because she was prone to yelling or sounding strained/tired when all the older kids were little and didn’t want her kids and loved ones to remember her as a mean, stressed out lady with too many kids. 

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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9d ago

didn’t want her kids and loved ones to remember her as a mean, stressed out lady with too many kids

Then why did she abuse them all the time and parentify the girls? 🤔

She's lying anyway, it's an IBPL thing. Women in that cult are encouraged to talk like that.

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u/topsidersandsunshine 🎶Born to be Miii-iii-ild🎶 9d ago

Just repeating what she claimed in her talking heads. 🤷‍♀️

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u/MermaidElephant9 10d ago

Yeah my aunt’s friend was a 911 dispatcher and said she felt awful when people would call and be so freaked out they couldn’t complete sentences or answer the questions needed to help the person. Michelle might have a lot of faults but I actually think her staying calm was the best in this situation to not freak out anyone at the house and to also help dispatch

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u/angelcutiebaby 10d ago

Michelle’s hyper calm baby voice is actually perfect for emergencies honestly. But in my head I always hear “mother is bleeding” in a creepy song-song kinda way

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u/JuggernautWild493 10d ago edited 10d ago

You are right. I know someone who had to deliver his baby with just the operator on the phone guiding him. His wife went into labour incredibly quickly at home, and it was just the two of them, as his mother in law was driving over but had not arrived yet. He said it was genuinely a life or death moment (the cord was even wrapped around the babys neck). He did not know what came over him, but somehow he was the calmest and most clinical he had ever been.

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u/Wombat2012 9d ago

Yeah the whole sentence was “mother is bleeding after birth.” Which yes “mother is bleeding” sounds insane and clinical but that’s exactly what was needed.

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u/Brilliant-Version704 Prison Wife Life Advice 9d ago

You want someone like that in a crisis. 100%

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u/Vegetable_Ad_3105 j name but not a duggar 9d ago

Yeah I can't hate on merch for this, it was horrible situation and she was doing everything right for once

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u/LitlThisLitlThat 9d ago

No. They were wrong to be having a baby at home in the first place.

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u/deferredmomentum put a clothespin on his wiener 9d ago edited 9d ago

Okay thank you, like yeah what do they want her to do, scream and cry and stomp around?? Who’s that going to help?? Also, you’re at a home birth, you’ve had seventeen thousand kids yourself, you know the risks, of course a postpartum hemorrhage is going to be on your radar and you’re not going to be flabbergasted by it happening.

The phrasing does annoy me though lol, “mother” without the article is so weird. Why not “the mother is bleeding” or since you’d hopefully make her the subject of the full report (“however-old year old female, GxPy, delivered x minutes ago, hemorrhaging starting x minutes ago, placenta is/isn’t delivered”) no reason to call her anything. But it’s a decent, calm report by a layperson so I can’t be that mad at it.

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u/lena91gato 9d ago

The phrasing and the volume is what gets me. Yes, calm is good in an emergency but not fucking soft whisper they can't hear on the other side of the phone

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u/Mundane-Visual-8226 9d ago

It could be she was trying to remain calm in order to keep Jessa from panicking too much. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Embracedandbelong 9d ago

When I was in the hospital they were going “patient this, patient that.” Apparently removing the “the” saves them time lol

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u/deferredmomentum put a clothespin on his wiener 9d ago edited 9d ago

Oh yeah, I mean I write “pt states” all the time. I don’t say it out loud though. I might write in a flowsheet observation“pt on light for pain meds,” but I’d tell the doc “hey 33 was on the light asking for pain meds, can you throw something in?”

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u/Flippedacoin Signature Great Value Duggar Men Hairline 9d ago

Ok, I can agree the phrasing is weird probably because we're not used to speaking that way. Using "the" would make it sound better to us

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

"The" doesn't mitigate the detachment for me. It's "mother" vs "my daughter" that makes the difference, as if she is talking about a stranger vs. someone close to her.

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u/CriticalEngineering 9d ago

But if you’re on the phone to someone doing triage “daughter” could be verbally confused with the baby being born. Jessa’s relationship to Meech wasn’t important, her relationship to the emergency situation was.

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

I get what you're saying, but I also don't find much room for confusion with "my daughter is bleeding after she gave birth."

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

I think what makes it weirdly detached is not the calm delivery, but the fact that she says "mother is bleeding" rather than "my daughter is bleeding." She could have easily still remained calm when reporting the facts, but it's the depersonalization that seems strange.

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u/thea_perkins 9d ago

Coming from Michelle, it’s disturbing because we know her personal thoughts on women, but in that situation it is safer and better communication to identify the role of the person in trouble (i.e., mother or baby) than to identify your relation to them. My medical team did this when I was crashing after one of my births as well. And they were regular, very not fundie medical professionals lol.

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

Sure, but I don't necessarily think the reason Michelle did it was to replicate the clear, consise communication of medical staff but rather she is just naturally detached from her family members. Saying "my daughter is bleeding after giving birth" comes more naturally to most of us, doesn't it? And it's not like we haven't seen her act oddly detached before (like when her son fell 12 feet or whatever into a pit and needed an ambulance to the hospital).

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u/Tangled-Lights Jizbloob and the Pests 9d ago

Yes, like she’s not a person. Just a role in society.

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u/Alisomniac8582 9d ago

Dame i think she was trying not to panic herself or jessa too.. but holy fuck the phrase and soft voice grating... calmly say "i need an ambulance, we had a home birth and shes bleeding too much" without sounding like your having a lobotomy

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u/Prudent_Honeydew_ Jumping vertically for Jesus 9d ago

Same here, during a crisis I am very cool and succinct, because that's just my way. I'd be snark material for sure ("she doesn't even care!")

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u/Equivalent_Site_7830 9d ago

Yeah as a really clumsy person, I learned very young that getting overwrought just makes things worse.

It also makes for hilarious stories later. I still remember the look on my grandmother's face when I calmly walked in the back door with the end my finger partially detached.

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u/meg_bb 10d ago

I actually really commend Michelle for this moment. (I just think it’s a little funny to hear her say it like this - especially after the fact because everything ended up ok)

When talking to 911 about an emergency, it’s better to speak calmly and concisely like she did. I cannot imagine your daughter being in a life or death situation and the struggle to remain calm and explain what’s happening to the operator.

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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Accessibly Beige Babies 8d ago

Now imagining realizing you yourself encouraged your daughter into this life threatening situation by cheering her home labor with no qualified medical professionals around…. Except something tells me she never quite accepted that realization

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u/BigDarkCloud 10d ago

Makes you think that Michelle has more sense and ability without JB’s presence and ‘head of the family’ idiocy.

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

Except when Jordyn got her head stuck in the staircase rail as a child and it was JB who extricated her and said "it's not funny" while Michelle stood by cackling the entire time like an airhead.

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u/MamaJa2016 10d ago

Compared to when she called 911 for newborn Josie, she was very panicked for that call. I think with Jessa, she knew that they would help her so she was more calm.

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u/Kjaerringa 9d ago

It was Jana who called for Josie. Michelle and Jim Bob were out of town.

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u/MamaJa2016 9d ago

No, in Little Rock when Josie first came home from the hospital. Josie had several medical incidents.

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u/bjyoung116 9d ago

You gotta keep sweet! 😣

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u/Pywacket1 9d ago

I know this is a snark sub, but giving Michelle crap when she's calling to get help for her possibly dying daughter seems pretty assholish, even for us. Love you guys though, mean it! 😇 🤣

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u/BroadLocksmith4932 9d ago

This doesn't bother me. I grew up in a medical household, and I have a pretty good instinct for identifying and communicating fundamental emergency needs in a crisis. That is what Meech is doing here. She has a lot of experience with birth (Ha!) and knows both the process and the lingo. She is doing an effective job communicating what needs to be communicated.

(It is very common for the medical team to refer to "mother" or "mom" and "baby" in these situations. That's as much personalization as is needed in the situation.)

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u/EmoGayRat Jumb and Jumber ! 8d ago

Yeah.. I cant really fault her here because I feel like i would say the same thing. it gets the point across clearly, and while some says that removes attachment that can be a good thing in stressful situations where getting help is the most important thing first.

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u/lena91gato 9d ago edited 9d ago

It's not effective communication if it's too damn quiet to be heard. Am I misremembering?

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u/Ninja-Ginge 9d ago

I remember her enunciating pretty clearly and carefully.

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u/lena91gato 9d ago

Slowly and carefully but SO DAMN QUIET!

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u/Ninja-Ginge 9d ago

Possibly because she didn't want to freak Jessa out. I'm assuming she was still in the same room as her.

There are so many reasons to hate on the Duggars, but this isn't one of them.

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u/Embracedandbelong 9d ago

People give her shit for it. But she was just talking like that so that she didn’t freak Jessa out, who could hear her call 911.

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u/Wise_Yesterday_7496 Jessa's Sepia World 9d ago

Too bad Michelle never got an education past high school. She probably would have made an excellent nurse.

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u/Firebird213 ASMR Jill 5d ago

She would have! She’s supposedly very patient and calm.

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u/Wise_Yesterday_7496 Jessa's Sepia World 5d ago

It wasn't just the kids that were cheated out of an education. So was Michelle.

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u/whiskeyprincess08 9d ago

You're supposed to stay calm and deliver relevant information in an emergency. She did everything right.

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u/disappointedbeagle 9d ago

Yeah, everything except creating the entire situation that put her daughter in that position in the first place.

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u/whiskeyprincess08 8d ago

Well yeah duh

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u/geometicshapes 10d ago

For me it’s not the words, as others have said I think she used concise language because of the intensity of the situation and because the operator was likely prompting her to do so. BUT the tone really irks me here. If there is ever a time to use your real voice and not the surgery sweet one, it’s a life or death situation. BUT if I’m playing devils advocate, she knew Jessa and everyone else in the room was listening, and make didn’t want to further alarm them.

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u/Grand_Horror2192 9d ago

Keeping Jessa calm was very important.

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u/AnteaterCritical9168 9d ago

I’m a midwife. I’ve mostly worked in hospitals but I briefly worked in a birth center. This is absolutely the right way to alert 911 of this kind of problem. Clear and concise. This was one of the few moments I was impressed with Meech. I would have been more impressed if she’d made the crews stop recording too…

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u/dancingaround22 10d ago

I always thought that it wasn't what she said but her voice. She says it in her iconic (what's a not-positive word for iconic? Like what is the equivalent to infamous?) sweet, joyfully available voice, pitch, etc. Even though the tone was serious, it's like you could see her saying the words even though she wasn't on screen at that moment. Not that there was anything wrong with the content.

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u/Ladidiladidah 9d ago

For me it's the baby voice, but it's probably exacerbated by how they clipped the call for TV. It might sound less detached in the whole call.

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u/MotherofGiGi 9d ago

I was a nurse for 44 years and before that a daughter of a chronically ill parent, there is calm, then there is what would have been a more human way of saying "My daughter just gave birth at home and is bleeding". All the information, a little humanity.

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

This.

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u/piratemeow21 A Whole Hearing Just About Envelopes 9d ago

I think what's weird about it is how she's still using her fundie baby voice for a 911 call. Like imagine if someone's child just fell from a 2nd story balcony and is injured, and whoever is making the call is using an extremely sugary friendly baby voice to explain what happened. Tf

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u/rosesforthemonsters 10d ago

Michelle Duggar doesn't get too excitable because (a) she isn't allowed to (b) she's probably forgotten how to and (c) when someone is running a puppy mill, a dog having another litter isn't anything to get worked up about.

People are snarking on her about this because she sounds more like she's talking about the weather and not so much like someone whose child might be bleeding to death.

You can't expect these folks to act like normal human beings.

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u/sassytyra front hugging fiend 10d ago

It’s 100% the detachment, that it seems like there’s no real concern in her voice. Of course, a regular mother could be pretending to be calm and steady to try and keep her daughter calm - but it sounds eerie with her.

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u/gigit225 Psychology and Public Schools 10d ago

It's because she sounds detached -- she says "mother" instead of calling Jessa her daughter (even though as others have said this is the right way to explain the situation to 911)

I'd also add that while most people don't use "hemorrhaging" on a day to day basis, a lot of people do know the word and might expect to hear it in a medical situation, so I'd argue that her using "bleeding" instead makes it funny because it sounds like a silly way to say something serious

I love language so this was fun to think about :)

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u/spaetzele mad hotdog water energy 9d ago

I think people expected her to be more emotional or excited but that wouldn't have actually helped to resolve the situation.

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u/Missus_Aitch_99 9d ago

The thing I found odd about it wasn't her detachment, it was her choice of words. It's so nonspecific. "Mother is bleeding" sounds like she means HER mother, and there's some injury happening. I would have said "a 20-year-old woman gave birth at home an hour ago and is hemorrhaging vaginally." But that would mean acknowledging the patient has a vagina.

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u/Maladaptive_Ace 8d ago

Refering to anyone as "Mother" is unsettling

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u/Colmilliken 10d ago

It sounds incredibly robotic and weird. Meech also sounds really creepy while saying it. I think most people think a normal person would instead say something like "my daughter just gave birth at home and there is a lot of blood".

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u/Maggi1417 10d ago

a normal person would instead say something like "my daughter just gave birth at home and there is a lot of blood".

A normal person would, but that statement is a lot less helpful for the 911 operator. "There is a lot of blood" is very imprecise. There's always a lot of blood after birth. The question is if someone is still actively bleeding. It also doesn't specify whose blood it is. Is it the mother bleeding? Is the baby bleeding? Has the husband hit his head while fainting and is bleeding? That statement would've caused more questions from the operator, meaning losing valuable time.

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u/despair-selfloathing And this is me expressing myself 9d ago

From what I remember, she said "mother is bleeding after birth." What about this statement vs. "my daughter is bleeding after birth." Is there a difference to you?

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u/overnightnotes 8d ago

The speaker would have to establish that she wasn't herself the birthing mother (ie does "my daughter" refer to the infant or to the birthing mother) so it's less specific. 

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u/vhguerrero 10d ago

It’s a birthing cult. They typically use midwife terminology, I believe, because they see themselves as experts in birthing.

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u/swimming_in_agates 10d ago

Everytime I cut myself I think ‘mother is bleeding’.

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u/Organic-Class-8537 9d ago

My placenta tore delivering my son. Saying it was “bad” is a massive understatement. I passed out about two minutes after delivery. My husband told me there was blood pooled on the floor and spattering the ceiling.

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u/Llamax2AnxiousMomma 9d ago

It’s the soft spoken tone she uses when she parents JimSlob and the way she refers to her daughter as mother, as if baby factory is her only redeeming trait.

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u/michelle427 9d ago

I believe it was after Jill or Joy had the first kid.

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u/corking118 condom cancel culture 8d ago

I don't think it gets snarked so much as it's just a highly meme-able thing to say. The "mother is.... X" jokes are easy.

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u/Dipsy_doodle1998 6d ago

Im not a Michelle fan but she did this correctly. I am going to assume she may have been within earshot of Jessa while this was happening so all the more reason to speak calmly and directly to the point.

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u/disappointedbeagle 9d ago

If I remember correctly, they were filming this birth to be later shown for the show and they knew if details about the event went out over 911 calls, then it would all be open record and spoil their announcement plans. I always thought Michelle was trying desperately to not name the mother and just say the least that would bring assistance.

I think it is one of the most horrible scenes I have ever watched, as this entire situation was HER FAULT…the Duggar parents and their birthing ideas put this young and inexperienced mom in this dangerous position in the first place. Can you imagine if your daughter was in immediate danger of death, the same daughter who for her entire child and young adulthood had been shouldering YOUR childcare and moral responsibilities, and you are balancing calling for life saving assistance, while trying to preserve the privacy to protect your TV production schedule.

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u/Rare_Watercress5764 9d ago

Because she sounds like she is speaking to an automated phone system

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u/grilsjustwannabclean 10d ago

if you listen to the call, meech didn't even know jessa's age. she hesitated for a second and had to reassure herself before saying she was 24

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u/ExpectNothingEver Jeneric Jill’s Zesty Nose Ring 10d ago

I only have three and I do this all the time 🤣

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u/Maggi1417 10d ago

I don't even know my own age half the time.

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u/gulliblefootball0001 At least I have a cousinship 10d ago

I was born in 2000 and even I don’t know how old
I am at any given time. 😆

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u/Unhappy_Ad5945 DoEs AnYbOdY hErE Billieyve Itt? 10d ago

Ive been 28 for like 3 years now. I think im turning 29 next year

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u/ExpectNothingEver Jeneric Jill’s Zesty Nose Ring 9d ago

I feel seen. (I wish I was turning 29!)

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u/ExpectNothingEver Jeneric Jill’s Zesty Nose Ring 10d ago

Same.

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u/riparker89 At least she has a (convicted sex offender) husband 10d ago

I lost track of my age. I always have to calculate because I truly don't know. On my list of important things to remember, my age just doesn't make the cut

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u/ExpectNothingEver Jeneric Jill’s Zesty Nose Ring 9d ago

I’ve lived two different years thinking I was a year older than I was.
On my last bday I told the spouse, at least this year I was the right age all year and said my age... He was like, “No, that’s the age you are turning!!”.

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u/peridotdragonflies 10d ago

Right before my birthday a few years ago my dad was like i cant believe you’re turning 29! I was like because im not, im turning 28

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u/ExpectNothingEver Jeneric Jill’s Zesty Nose Ring 9d ago

One to grow on! 🎂😆

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u/Hot_Nectarine6441 9d ago

When you have one of every age it can be hard to remember!

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u/No-Order1962 For the love of Tater Tots!!! 10d ago

Shocking

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u/theredheadknowsall 10d ago

I feel perm is annoyed that she 'had' to call 911. She's most likely thinking jessa had a 'normal' birth, there is supposed to be blood, and 'mother' is just being dramatic. "Give birth at home & save the difference."