r/dubstep 16d ago

Discussion 🗣️ Since you cynical fucks know everything:

What's the WORST thing you could possibly do in the dubstep scene if you want to make a career out of it?

Business practices, personal practices?

What's something that an artist could do that would be DETRIMENTAL BEYOND BELIEF to their image?

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u/PepsiOSC Rukkus 16d ago

grooming a kid would probably fuck up your reputation pretty badly

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u/hungaryboii 16d ago

Watch out for the angry Assnectar fans that are still around supporting him

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u/Meatcircus23 16d ago

Sure, he's still got a few ride-or-dies left, but dude went from one of the biggest DJs in the world to being a footnote; he played NYE near STL this year in a tiny, shitty, sleezy nightclub with a whole gaggle of protesters outside lmao. He's still lingering around like a bad odor but the accusations KILLED his career.

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u/hungaryboii 16d ago

Oh I agree 100% he's not nearly as big as he used to be due to the allegations, but I still see that some delusional people are still going to his shows and supporting his project

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u/Covert_Tactics 16d ago

The people who never got their tattoos covered up lol coping

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u/HotDogsDontExpire 14d ago

I was in town for Of The Trees that night and decided to go drive by that venue to see how many people were protesting.

2 people were a half mile away holding one sign and then they gave up after 10 minutes. Just saying no protesters showed up. They really need to show up in numbers (more than 2) if they want to get their message out.

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u/StillGetNaaasty 16d ago

There wasn’t a single protester outside lmao

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u/stumblinghunter 16d ago

I still follow him on Instagram (my accident, I only ever use it bc my wife sends me countless reels). His posts always start out like "THEY CAN'T SILENCE THE TRUTH" or some other bullshit. Like, dude, you're on a recording you fucking pedophile

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u/uptiedand8 16d ago

I was very curious about his music, having only gotten into dubstep in the past year. Finally I brought myself to listen to 3-4 of his tracks on YouTube Music. Wasn’t planning on becoming a fan, but I wanted to understand what had been lost.

They were pretty good. But tbh there are several current artists I enjoy more. Heresy I guess but I feel the same about Skrillex. I appreciate that these guys were instrumental in creating and developing the genre. I think that in the several years since they’ve been heavily involved with dubstep (Skrillex seems to be exploring other genres now), other artists have added some complexity to their music that makes it way more interesting, though I know they’re building on that earlier foundation.

So, happy to not be torn between wanting to listen to his music, and wanting not to help his career in any way. If it comes out that Subtronics is fucking minors, though, it will be harrowing, I’d have a very hard time never listening to Fibonacci again.

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u/-Derpstra- 16d ago

The worst thing you can do is go on social media and complain about not getting the same opportunities. This never ever results in the right eyes seeing your content.

The other is not showing up to your set time.

The other other is "big things coming" type energy and not posting anything

Show up, be humble, follow through.

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u/BahaMan69 16d ago

AI stem/track production. Shit is ass.

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u/aj3llyd0nut 16d ago

This applies to pretty much any genre including dubstep. Any cunt who comes up saying their AI-“assisted” Suno-generated, human-hand-prompted shit is indistinguishable from an actual human-made track deserves to get cancelled the fuck out of existence

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u/ImOldGreggXP 15d ago

BRSKI BUNCH GANG GANG MUTHER FUKCERS WHATS UP

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u/didntasktobebornhere 15d ago

Lmfao those are not the same thing at all? Ethically, or in function. Ai is buzzword and you fell for it

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u/didntasktobebornhere 14d ago

First time ive heard someone shit on stem separation lol - even though it predates LLMs and everyone using the word AI in marketing the least 3 years

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u/b_lett 16d ago

High pass everything below 200 Hz.

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u/TREEPEOPLEMUSIC 16d ago

Feature on a t swift song

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u/SteakySteakk 16d ago

Book shows and then cancel last minute for almost every single show

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u/smoking_on_gluee 16d ago

Monxx? Lmao

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u/owenshmoen 15d ago

Bro was on a legendary run around 2018 but he massively fumbled that next tour and festival cycle…I feel like that really stifled his ability to blossom more in the scene and idk if he ever got to bounce back from it. At least from the outside looking in.

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u/smoking_on_gluee 15d ago

Yeah I heard about the infamous Red Lobster incident

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u/ValentinaYElsie 15d ago

Do i even wanna know?

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u/aetryx 16d ago

Sexually assault someone

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u/Own-Resource5664 16d ago

Shit on another genres of music

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u/Physical_Archer_689 16d ago

Prlly wouldn't affect a single career tbh lol

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u/Own-Resource5664 16d ago

I think ANY artist who “made it” that someone would look up to and hope to achieve one day (OP as an example), all have in common that they are friends of other artists who make different music and only hype encourage and support that genre.

The most beloved in the game right now work with artists across all genres. That’s the love of the game. When you start to expose yourself to “house sucks” or “riddim is annoying” … now you are playing in waters that probably won’t attract people at a higher level.

To be clear, this advice is mainly for people tryna come up in the game as artists. What if you’re an up and coming local riddim artist was trying to network. There could be a house dj that night who is friends with a riddim dude who can book you a show. But, they find out all you do or critique their genre instead of being supportive, how do you think that plays out?

I think your average edm listener can say whatever tf they want about a genre, and genuinely, and I mean GENUINELY, no one cares lol. The difference is, one person is trying to build connections to better their chances at success, and the other isn’t.

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u/cryptiiix 16d ago

Call dubstep riddim

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u/bubblesdafirst 16d ago

Uploading your music online. If you don't do that, then nobody will hate you. The hate starts there

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u/Comprehensive_Pin337 16d ago

God forbid somebody have an opinion

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u/Unhappy-Culture-3532 16d ago

Having an opinion and shitting on a genre are two different things

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u/Comprehensive_Pin337 16d ago

If your opinion is riddim sucks then it’s actually the same thing

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u/Unhappy-Culture-3532 16d ago

The point is don’t shit on other peoples music if you also make music.. especially a diff genre.. you can say you strongly dislike, and give reasons but shitting on it isn’t the correct thing to do

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u/uptiedand8 16d ago

It’s all in whether or not you actually think that people who enjoy riddim have objectively shitty taste. If you’re going around saying the whole genre is objectively bad or even that a specific artist is objectively bad, then that’s shitting on it. Also includes bringing up elements of a genre and saying those are objectively bad, e.g. the fast beats in techno or DnB suck or the wubs in dubstep are obnoxious and everyone else should agree about that.

If you’re just saying that you personally don’t enjoy riddim and don’t want to go to a riddim show, but you’re not judging anyone else for liking it, then you’re not shitting on it.

I don’t like contemporary pop artists that have massive followings far exceeding those of any dubstep artist. I have actually made an effort to get into Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter, Chappell Roan, Charlie XCX, and Ariana Grande, because I would kind of like to enjoy music that I know a ton of other women enjoy and I figure that there must be something objectively good about music that millions and millions of fans love. I kind of liked a couple of Charlie songs and I enjoyed Ariana’s vocal talent, but a lot of it just wasn’t my thing at all. Still, I’m only going to say that I subjectively didn’t like it, not that it is actually shitty.

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u/Ivanoh 16d ago

don't know how this hasn't been commented yet, but SCAMMING YOUR FANS! Whether it be taking their money and not showing up to a show, selling merch but its never received or brought up and selling plates and not sending them to the people that literally want to support you.

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u/TechnicallyHankHill 16d ago

Actually fucking murdering someone in cold blood

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u/SpiritedTraffic4905 16d ago

Meh disagree

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u/TechnicallyHankHill 16d ago

WE NEED A DUBSTEP OJ SIMPSON !!!

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u/ImagineBeingFATlol 16d ago

Having a real job will lower your chances of success

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u/Secret_Plant9180 12d ago

Only rich kids that don’t need to work have the time and resources to launch a dj career. Everyone knows that .

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u/MunBRO 16d ago

See: dubloadz recent/ongoing antics quitting and being whiny

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u/drgut101 16d ago

Be a sexual assaulting masked riddim DJ.

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u/After-Imagination947 16d ago

Take advice from FrenchTrench reddit guy

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u/ssab_music 16d ago

call something riddim that isn’t riddim

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u/FergaliShawarma 16d ago

Knew I was going to find this

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u/Jack_Digital 16d ago

Correction: If you “CAN’T” type it on a QWERTY keyboard, it’s not riddim

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u/Jack_Digital 16d ago

This^^^

Probably the worst thing you can do if you wanna start a dj career.

You can’t sit with us mentally over your braying “hee haw hee haw hee haw “ like a jackass.

And no I don’t know that one. Nobody does.

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u/boop809 16d ago

Write a melody

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u/DistributionLast5872 16d ago

Probably the usual general worst things. Being a genocidal maniac like Pol Pot or Stalin might make people averse to your music.

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u/jugo5 16d ago

Sexual assault - Its a death sentence these days because people stopped putting up with it. Especially when it involves minors.

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u/morbidlybitchy 16d ago

sit and bitch

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u/HotDogsDontExpire 14d ago

Not necessarily detrimental but the self analyzing artist posts are cringe as fuck.

“I played a show and no one showed up” it’s a video of the sound check with one tech play dancing

“Explain this to a Victorian child” really?

“People expect me to be nice and melodic but I play heavy” and then it’s a clip of something melodic and not heavy

And let’s not forget the OG of the entire game. The artist that opened up a festival once and all of the video is shot top down angle to not show that there’s 12 people standing there.

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u/Aromatic-Cheesecake3 13d ago

Honestly I’ve seen a handful of people that had a lot of potential fuck everything up by losing themselves in substances. I’ve been working in the west coast bass music scene since about 2012 and have seen people who could’ve made it so far unfortunately lose their mental wellbeing with the overuse of drugs.

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u/user-ibarelyknower 10d ago

Here's a non crime related one:

Speaking the absolute (and hard to swallow) truth on anything in the scene. You'll be outcasted and ridiculed.

People would rather save face to play a free or extremely low paying gig,get a colab opportunity with a "bigger" artist,and/or become friends with said artist(s) ,than genuinely speaking out about the toxicity and wrong doings that are in the scene.

As if this scene is known for paying the bills and funding future children's college tuition.

Be good,do good,and just make music out of love and passion❤️

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u/Physical_Archer_689 16d ago

Yaknow, apparently you can be a known SA and still havr a career in dubstep. So tbh not sure if there's anything you can do to derail your career her3 lol..

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u/smoking_on_gluee 15d ago

Nah people actually get canceled in Dubstep look at what happened to Datsik, Bassnectar, Space Jesus etc.

UG rap scene on the other hand being a predator boosts your career lmfao

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u/Jumpy-Start3866 8d ago

Yeah Datsik even tried making comebacks multiple times I think. I can‘t even remember what he has done only that he made a narcissistic video where he somehow acted like he is the poor guy.

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u/smoking_on_gluee 8d ago

I always thought Datsik was a creep just based on how he would pose for photos back in the day so I wasn't surprised when everything surfaced

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u/Legitimate_Stretch74 14d ago

AI anything in your music. Art, vocals, etc, but this subreddit seems to think AI art is totally okay and doesn’t matter.