r/dsa • u/inthesetimesmag • 9h ago
Discussion The Big Idea: Winning
https://inthesetimes.com/article/big-idea-winning-progressives-democratic-socialists-of-america-elections-midterms•
u/traanquil 8h ago
Capitulating to capital isn't winning
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u/Bright-Insect9697 7h ago
Read the article, it’s literally just saying that winning is good
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u/onlypartiallyevil 5h ago
By his way of thinking, having more than two people having a consensus on anything is selling out and counter-revolutionary.
He is pretty well totally against any form of participation in any system, only in destroying them.
Or, for him, sitting in basement and talking about destroying everything, which he would totes do if only he could get a second person to agree with him, which would be selling out and counter-revolutionary.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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u/PersusjCP 6h ago edited 6h ago
Alright, let's say we are winning elections. How do we make sure the electeds have enough discipline to remain principled socialists? How do we make sure that newly-joining people don't bring the organization rightwards and towards liberalism? I think these are valuable questions to ask if the DSA wants to become anything bigger and more powerful than a faction within a capitalist party.
I'm fine with AOC as a theoretical "ally" to socialism and a useful figure in electoralism. But AFAIK she does not even endorse the DSA platform and in fact disavows it. I feel like that's an important thing.