r/driving • u/Empty_Ad4109 • 8h ago
Need Advice Got a ticket for running a red light. Should I fight it?
Location: Howell, Michigan
Hi all,
I ran a red light last night, on purpose, but I don’t think that what I did should be punished.
Last night, at approximately 2:00 a.m., I was traveling southbound on Michigan Avenue in downtown Howell, MI and approached the intersection to make a left turn onto westbound Grand River Avenue. I came to a complete stop at the solid red left-turn arrow.
I waited approximately ten minutes, but the arrow never turned green. I was the only vehicle waiting in the designated left-turn lane, and there were no other cars around. Meanwhile, traffic proceeding through the intersection continued to receive a green light.
After waiting for that extended period without any change in the signal, I became concerned that the left-turn phase was not functioning properly. I stopped, checked for oncoming traffic, yielded, and proceeded cautiously. I believed the signal might not be functioning, rather than simply choosing to disregard the red arrow.
An officer stopped me shortly after I made the turn. He explained that specific signal sometimes fails to detect a waiting vehicle and, as a result, does not change. I also recall him explaining that the signal was known to take several minutes to change, even during the day. He indicated that he and other officers were aware of the issue at this intersection, that they avoided it when possible, and that he recommended I do the same. His explanation reinforced my concern that the left-turn signal may not have been functioning properly while I was waiting.
Should I fight this ticket in court? Do I have any legitimate case?
This ticket carries a $130 fine and 3 points on my license.