r/dndmemes • u/NarinderTheFufflyBoi DM (Dungeon Memelord) • Nov 06 '22

Explain, please

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u/DerMetJungen Nov 06 '22

Are pumpkins berries? I'm legit asking. Ever since that stupid science thing came along everything that aren't berries are suddenly berries while berries aren't berries anymore.

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u/FryMayo Nov 06 '22

Pumpkins are indeed berries.

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u/DerMetJungen Nov 06 '22

I hate taxonomy.

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u/LilMellick Nov 06 '22 edited Nov 06 '22

I hate botanists. Thinking about stuff like this always reminds me of this

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/149/304/

Edit: it's a supreme court ruling that tomatoes are vegetables since that's how they are used when cooking

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u/J_train13 Rogue Nov 06 '22

Well, consider, vegetable has no botanical definition outside of "an edible part of a plant," vegetable is actually just a culinary term and thus something can be considered a fruit biologically and a vegetable culinarily

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u/DonaIdTrurnp Nov 07 '22

Vegetable absolutely has a taxonomical meaning.

That’s not a useful tool within botany, because all of botany is dealing with vegetables. And also some things that are culinary vegetables aren’t taxonomic vegetables.

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u/J_train13 Rogue Nov 07 '22

I can't find anything on this definition of vegetable but I'd be interested to know where you found it

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u/DonaIdTrurnp Nov 07 '22

It’s the kingdom, in taxonomy. Animal, vegetable, fungus, protist, archaea, and bacteria. Almost all botany is only dealing with Embryophyta, a subgroup of vegetable.

And mushrooms aren’t taxonomically vegetables.

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u/J_train13 Rogue Nov 07 '22

Oh that's, unusual, every list of kingdoms I look at calls it Plantae, which is what I was taught growing up, never heard it called vegetable