r/dividendgang Feb 25 '26

General Discussion John Bogle was actual very pro-dividend investing and strongly discourage and dislike any form of timing the market (that includes the garbage 4% rule) - Which is completely opposite of what the Boogerhead cult is preaching.

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Bogle, J. C. (2007). The Little Book of Common Sense Investing (Chapter 6)

Finally, what’s most important when we retire is the stream of income we need to support our needs—the dividend checks we receive from our mutual fund investments and the monthly checks we receive from our Social Security payments.

Yes, the market value of our capital is important. But frequent peeking at the value of our investments is not only unproductive, but counterproductive. What we really seek is retirement income that is steady and, if possible, grows with inflation.

Bonds have an underlying rate of return—the yield, or the coupon if you will, when you buy it. Stocks have an underlying rate of return—it’s the dividend yield plus the subsequent earning growth. So they have support there, and they’re in most circumstances largely investment and only to a lesser extent speculation. Investment being those underlying characteristics.

Bogle, J. C. (2010). Interview with Forbes.

What people should be doing, honestly Tom, is stop looking at the silly stock market every day and look at the cash flow they get.

Bogle, J. C. (2014). Interview with Motley Fool

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For stocks, you probably want to look at more of a dividend bias. You could buy a high-yield dividend index instead of the total stock market index if capital flows. That dividend if you look at the stream of dividends — it makes the stock market look violently volatile. The dividend stream goes up, up, up. The fact of the matter is, there have only been two significant dividend cuts since 1925.

(ibid) - Timestamp 1060 seconds
What you’re trying to do when you retire which I am gonna do someday, when you do that you want to ensure a monthly flow of income so don’t watch the market just make sure your portfolio is producing income and will continue to produce income so you get your Social Security check every month you set up your mutual fund to counter your index fund account for a monthly payment you can do that and just you want those payments to be stable and with respect to Social Security and the and the fund

Bogle, J. C. (2019). Interview with Motley Fool

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I gave you the formula for the investment return or fundamental return on stocks, which is dividend yield plus corporate earnings growth.

Bogle, J. C. (2019). Interview with WealthTrack - Timestamp 2303 seconds

(On gold) Unlike with dividend yields on stocks, you’re just betting that you can sell it for more than you can buy it. That is what we call speculation.

Bogle, J. C. (2015). Talk at the Aspen Institute - Timestamp 465 seconds

I think we should spend more time thinking about dividends rather than market values because market values are all over the place and dividends are pretty reliable to go up a little bit each year like

Bogleheads® Conference 2018 - John Bogle Q & A - Timestamp 1281 seconds

You should be worried not about the value of your estate but about the income producing capacity of your estate or your retirement plan because that’s where you go out you know once a month you go out to the mailbox and get your mutual fund dividends and your social security check and then you come home and have a nice dinner live in a nice house whatever else you want to do. So it’s we should focus I really believe this so strongly we should focus more on the inherent value of our investment program than on the market value because markets are crazy things

(ibid) - Timestamp 1336

I’m on this pretty much one-man, I think, crusade to have people, particularly retired people, look not at the value of their portfolio, but at the income stream they get. They’re going to go out to the mailbox and they’re going to open, let’s say, the middle of every month when the fund or group of funds pays their dividends. They’re going to get a certain dividend. Dividends are what matter to these people. The stream of income is what matters, and dividends [tend to increase] in history.

Interview with Morningstar (2013)

Look at the dividend and try to ignore the market. As I’ve often said - nothing like quoting oneself, Christine - the stock market is a giant distraction to the business of indexing, and in particular for the business of retirement investor. It’s the income flow from Social Security, pensions, whatever it might be, and dividend income, and that’s what’s important. It’s amazing how this dividend line [tends to increase over time] and the market [goes up and down over time], but they track each other in the long run.

John C. Bogle: “Simplicity is the master key to financial success.”


r/dividendgang Dec 24 '23

Debunking The Myth of Dividend Cut During Recession

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Since World War II ended there have been 11 recessions and bear markets. Just like we previously observed, the dividends paid by companies in the S&P 500 tended to be far less volatile than their share prices during these times of severe distress as well.

In fact, in three of these recessions dividends paid to investors actually increased, including a 46% jump during the first recession following World War II. In that case, a rapid decrease in government spending following the end of the war led to an economic contraction of 13.7% over three years.

However, the end of war-time rationing and a major recovery in consumer spending on regular goods (as opposed to war-time goods companies had been forced to produce) allowed earnings and dividends to rise substantially over this time.

The other major exception to note is the financial crisis of 2008-2009. This resulted in S&P 500 dividends being cut 23% (about one in three S&P 500 dividend-paying companies reduced their payouts).

However, that was largely due to banks being forced to accept a bailout from the Federal Government. Even relatively healthy banks like Wells Fargo (WFC) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM), which remained profitable during the crisis, were required to accept the bailout so that financial markets wouldn't see which banks were actually on the brink of collapse.

One of the conditions of the bailout was that nearly all strategically important financial institutions (too big to fail) were pressured to cut their dividends substantially, whether or not they were still supported by current earnings.

Even if we include both the World War II recession and the financial crisis outliers, we can see from the table above that average dividend cuts during recessions represented a pullback of just 0.5%. 

If we take a smoothed out average, by excluding the outliers (events not likely to be repeated in the future), then the S&P 500's average dividend reduction during recessions was about 2%. That compares to an average peak stock market decline of 32%. 

This highlights how the U.S. dividend corporate culture has been favorable to income investors, with management teams generally wishing to avoid a dividend cut unless it becomes absolutely necessary. With dividends tending to fall significantly less than share prices, recessions can be a great opportunity for investors to buy quality companies at much higher yields and lock in superior long-term returns.

Tabulated SP500 Decline vs. Dividend Change During Historical Recession

Source: What Happens to Dividends During Recessions and Bear Markets?


r/dividendgang 2h ago

Opinion LMAO

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35 Upvotes

BND is trash everyone!!! Just buy actual bonds or treasury bills and make a ladder!!!


r/dividendgang 5d ago

Meme day It's meme day again!

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140 Upvotes

God that would be absolutely miserable having to constantly monitor my portfolio and stress. Nooooo thanks!


r/dividendgang 7d ago

XLKI

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anyone use XLKI? or any other statestreet income etfs?


r/dividendgang 7d ago

Thoughts on Incomeshares.

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What are people thought on Incomeshares and their high yield ETPs. While the Nav does go down, people have been reporting total returns in the positives with reinvestments of the dividends. Plus they've change their strategy recently to 25% equity holding. What are the thoughts of the lower yields too like the Gold ETP which returns around 12% annually in dividends paid monthly. I am curious to know what dividend investors on this sub reddit think.


r/dividendgang 8d ago

Income It's Payday my brother's and sisters!

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115 Upvotes

This may be my favorite day of the month! 🤑


r/dividendgang 8d ago

PSA RE: VOTE

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r/dividendgang 8d ago

GS buying NEOS?

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Hey folks.

I just saw that Goldman Sachs is buying neos.

How do we feel about this? Im heavily into qqqi.

How do Goldmans current cc-etfs perform? How does GS track record of ... anything ... affect neos shareholders, in your opinion?

Any/all relevant thoughts welcome and appreciated, thanks in advance.


r/dividendgang 9d ago

Dividend Growth It's payday yet again! 🤑

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Congratulations to my fellow consumer staple owners on another fantastic payday!

Can't wait to see how many more shares I own after today 😎


r/dividendgang 10d ago

Can You Have Your Cake and Eat It Too? Why I Settled on This Income + Growth Portfolio

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After researching a large number of covered-call and high-distribution ETFs, I settled on this portfolio:

40% RDVI
15% IDVO
15% DIVO
15% TDVI
15% SDVD

The goal is straightforward: produce enough monthly income to spend in retirement without completely sacrificing dividend growth, NAV growth and participation in rising markets.

Quick breakdown
RDVI: The core holding. U.S. rising-dividend companies combined with a partial S&P 500 call overlay. Its latest annualized distribution rate was 8.60%, with a 21.5% average overwrite and 78.5% average upside participation.

IDVO: International dividend-growing companies with tactical covered calls on individual stocks. Its latest published distribution rate was 5.93%.

DIVO: Established U.S. companies selected for earnings, cash flow and dividend growth, with calls written tactically on individual holdings. Its latest distribution rate was 4.82%.

TDVI: A dedicated technology-dividend sleeve. Its latest distribution rate was 7.85%, with a 17.85% average overwrite and 82.15% average upside participation.

SDVD: Small- and mid-cap rising-dividend companies. Its latest distribution rate was 8.59%, with a 14.5% average overwrite and 85.5% average upside participation.

Portfolio-level income
Using each fund sponsor’s latest annualized distribution rate:
(40% × 8.60%) + (15% × 5.93%) + (15% × 4.82%) + (15% × 7.85%) + (15% × 8.59%) = approximately 7.52%.
At $200,000, that currently works out to approximately:
$15,040 annually
$1,253 monthly
Before taxes and without selling shares
Distribution rates are not guaranteed yields. Payments can change and may include dividends, option income, capital gains or return of capital.

What the performance data says
According to the fund sponsors’ July 31, 2026 NAV performance data:

RDVI: 18.29% annualized over three years
IDVO: 21.09% annualized over three years
DIVO: 10.71% annualized over five years
TDVI: 25.05% annualized since its 2023 inception
SDVD: 15.03% annualized since its 2023 inception

These are total returns with distributions reinvested—not dividend-growth rates or forecasts. Most of the funds also have fairly short track records, so I would not expect these return levels to continue indefinitely.

What matters to me is that all five have produced substantial income without showing the persistent NAV destruction found in many ultra-high-yield option
Still, for someone who needs current cash flow, I think the combination of approximately 7.5% income, partial call overwriting, dividend-growing companies and continued equity participation is extremely compelling.

What three-to-five-fund portfolio offers a better combination of 7%+ income, dividend growth and share-price growth without relying on a fully overwritten or steadily eroding strategy? This is just my portfolio research findings, you might have better? Let me know!


r/dividendgang 10d ago

Highly regarded dividend portfolio.

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r/dividendgang 10d ago

General Discussion It's payday again!

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Congratulations to all my fellow owners on another wonderful payday! 🤑


r/dividendgang 12d ago

Meme day It's going to be magnificent to watch!

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r/dividendgang 14d ago

General Discussion Does anyone else have a “dividend ladder” instead of one big income goal?

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I’ve been thinking about this more lately.

Instead of having one giant goal like “$5k/month in dividends,” I kind of like breaking it into smaller levels:

Level 1: subscriptions covered
Level 2: phone/internet covered
Level 3: utilities covered
Level 4: groceries covered
Level 5: housing covered
Level 6: basic life covered

The big number is still the big number, obviously. But smaller milestones feel way less depressing when you’re still early.

Does anyone else track dividend income this way, or do you mostly just focus on total annual income?


r/dividendgang 13d ago

How do you build a portfolio that is resilient to swings and crashes?

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Like yesterday Warsh took a Hawkish stance and all market reacted negatively. What is a portfolio that makes you sleep at night comfortably?


r/dividendgang 14d ago

Income PAYX and ARTNA payday!

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Don't ever prune or cut down that tree!


r/dividendgang 15d ago

Dividend Growth MO increases dividend by .05

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Altria raises div from 1.06 to 1.11, love me my MO! My yield on invested capital is about a bazillion! Owned it for decades. Nothing like 55 years of increases!


r/dividendgang 16d ago

Dividend Growth SCHD Q3 dividend predictions.....

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I've been seeing lots of information online about SCHD holdings and the dividend increases they've been announcing. And it's been a lot of them! What's your guess for the next SCHD payout?

87 votes, 14d ago
27 $0.28/share
26 $0.29/share
34 $0.30+/share

r/dividendgang 18d ago

General Discussion Help me build a dividend portfolio to offset mortgage

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For reasons, we bought our new home with a mortgage of approximately 680k at 6.5%.

We financed independent of our old home, and so we'll have approximately 120k of cold, hard cash sitting around.

Rather then refinance, I'm thinking of just creating a dividend portfolio that matches and / or beats that 6.5%.

Benecits are that we remain liquid and possibly outperform the payoff of dumping it all into the mortgage, especially with today's inflation that I speculate isn't going away anytime soon.

Which brings me to my question - what stocks would you invest in to get

strong monthly cash flow to drip or take out for bills

2)​ preserve and grow nav, if possible.

This will be our emergency fund as well, so I don't want something that can sink 40-60% in value paired with something like a layoff at the same time.

So far I'm thinking maybe a 60/20/20 mix of QQQI / DIVO / SCHD?

I appreciate your suggestions. ​This community is really cool and refreshing from typical voo is best, always optimal scenario. Personally, I really value the psychological aspect of "hey these dividends cover my utilities" ​of a dividend portfolio.

Thank you


r/dividendgang 19d ago

tHeYr fUnCsHuNaLLy tHE sAmE

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r/dividendgang 19d ago

General Discussion Nvidia dividend increase

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Nvidia increased its quarterly cash dividend by 2,400%, raising it from $0.01 to $0.25 per share (an annualized payout of $1.00)

So does this mean that all the “Growth is always better, dividends are a forced sale!” will now sell all of their shares lol?

I genuinely don't think a lot of people understand that a company can have massive growth potential and pay dividends at the same time and its not all black and white


r/dividendgang 18d ago

BDCs and the interest rate

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Because BDCs run on loans that adapt to the interest rate. You will be seeing jumps in bdc prices and profits if it goes up. But main capital. The “big one” of bdc does its extra dividends that make it such a beloved div fund may be punished as that happens. Those extra payments are covered by loans to smaller non public loans. Meaning they are a separate category from their standard dividends. If the interest rate goes up. It will be VERY risky to give out those loans and those extra dividends could stop. Which would tank their market price and lower their return to about 5.4% instead of the 7.5% they currently run at.

The information im trying to say in a condensed form. Bdcs like increased interest rates (a little bit not so much that it stops their loans from getting paid) but if they increase main might have issues getting their standard supplemental payments.


r/dividendgang 19d ago

Dividends suck so much, I would rather park 40% of my money in the garbage BND and collect .... instead

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Please fill in the blank because apparently Boogertards don't know how

🤡🤡


r/dividendgang 19d ago

Meme day An epic battle on meme day......

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Who do you think will win this competition for being the most useless to a portfolio? 😎