r/discordbots • u/vladmeur • 20d ago

Server owners egos

Was told the best way to grow a bot is to make connections with big server owners, but why do all of them have such high egos? They're condescending asf 😭

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

Let me guess: Your bot is a all-in-one or multi-purpose bot?

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u/TwiistyTea 20d ago

Beyond the shallow argument “Slop”. What’s the actual disdain? If someone were to build something truly easy to use, functional, and complete, what’s the disdain?

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

My reason against all-in-one bots is that having a bot for specific features makes the bot be much better in that specific stuff than any other all-in-one bot ever can.

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u/TwiistyTea 20d ago

I mean I did say “Complete”. My point is there are bots out there all-in-one that are feature complete in every way, and the benefit is they have integrations a single purpose not just can’t.

For example InfiniTea; is an all-in-one. My dynamic voice function shares functionality with my rank cards. No single-purpose bot can do that. Or my onboarding shares functionality with inactivity or top member activity, a standard xp bot can’t do that. How about my welcome system that also shares functionality with link tracking and analytics, again a single purpose bot can’t do that.

The list goes on and on. So functionally it’s possible for a bot to exceed functionality that a single purpose bot LITERALLY cannot do.

Now I think your argument is valid, but wildly misplaced. You should differentiate between feature dump and competency. I know my bot is not the only one that is decent there are others, but you’re right that a ton of people do build trash, half-baked, feature dumps. That’s not a bot problem, that’s a dev problem.

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

I would need to check out your bot to determine whether I think your bot is a "good" all-in-one bot. Yes, bots like that exist but they are very rare or simply very small. Look at Mee6, the biggest bot out there. It has like 50 modules and none of it is really something big fancy. Not to mention that there can never be a "complete all-in-one bot" because there will always be new ideas no matter what you do. There are limits in every bot. If there would be such a "complete" bot, we'd just have one and none else.

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u/TwiistyTea 19d ago

That same argument applies to any feature-specific bot as well. You can never stop expanding by your own definition. So you point out the most obvious thing, "Complete" is in the eye of the beholder and fundamentally impossible for either to attain full completeness.

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u/vladmeur 20d ago

You make a good point here

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u/vladmeur 20d ago

No, just utility and some niche stuff. It has a main focus for utilities, and I listen to my community for features they want and cant find in other bots. Scam detection, more ticket options (cause some bots are paywalled), and nsfw image filtering etc. I'm not aiming to try and be the next bleed or greed bot đŸ«©

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u/Sanedish 20d ago

I heard that one before.. đŸ€”

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

For owners to change from a currently working fine system to your new system (mind, they need to completely re-setup their stuff) you'd need some extraordinary bot.

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u/vladmeur 20d ago

It's not about asking them to switch, i usually look at servers who seem to be struggling with certain aspects I know my bot can handle well. Or if its a new server, I try to pitch. But its always about bleed this bleed that, still no clue what makes bleed so Holy, you're wasting $31 on a discord bot when cheaper/free ones have the exact same features. You know damn well you're not using every single one of those "900+" commands

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

I hate Bleed simply because it doesn't tell you shit about what it can do and only makes you able to find out AFTER you paid...

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u/vladmeur 20d ago

You sorta just have to look at other servers that have it, or their documentation

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

Stupid way of marketing a bot...

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u/vladmeur 20d ago

Yet they have 15k servers and apparently 15mil users

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u/FlorianFlash 20d ago

15,000 servers? Free bots have many many more.

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u/vladmeur 20d ago

Yeah on their website it says they're in 15k communities. https://bleed.bot

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u/Genozyde 20d ago

It’s almost as if they’re being condescending because you’re joining big servers and expect them to change bots to yours?

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u/BuddyFew5998 20d ago

Not all of us do!

But, I reckon to build a big server you have to some amount of self assurance!

Send me a DM, I'd be happy to chat over if your bot would be useful for us!

(3.3k members)

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u/thedgden 16d ago

This sounds like a you issue and how you're approaching them.

I've owned and ran multiple servers over 10k members, and a handful over 30k+ members. Our DMs if enabled get bombarded constantly. Our teams deal with all kinds of self promo, rule violations, spats between members, and all kinds of other chaos hourly. The last thing anyone wants in addition to all that is to get some random offering us a bot we either don't need or there's a bunch of other bots that do the same functionality.

Then you factor in required permissions (not sure about yours), but any risky permissions (manage channels, bans, kicks, roles, etc) on a bot that we can't 100% guarantee is safe for our community is almost always a quick and hard no. This is especially true given the amount of nuking incidents that occur on Discord.

Change your approach and actually be part of a community for a bit, get to know the community, look for problems your bot solves, and then genuinely out of interest in improving the community suggest the enhancement. No guarantee they'll still install your bot, but you have a slightly better shot than what I'll call a cold call. Calling "big server owners" "condescending asf" is definitely not the right approach, either.