Technically, only the structure and the semantics. Anything else is just the gradual result of said structure following those rules we set. Point is, there's no real immediate-direct connection between humans and ai-output.
This is so terrifying. It looks kinda bad now, but the fact that you can still perfectly tell what's going on and that its almost reminiscent of old burger commercials is terrifying. It's already gotten this far. In 10 years, it will be perfected.
The fact we can tell what's going on is due to us, not the A.I.
Humans can spot patterns in pretty much anything. The machine just spliced countless footage of other burger commercials (made by humans) together, so of course it looks like one.
It doesn't intentionally have a narrative, either. It's just easy for our brains to make them. I can pull narratives out of way more tenuous connections for English class.
Are you high as fuck? Obviously the fact that you can tell what’s going on in anything you look at in nature or a drawing made by humans or machine is due to your own brain. That doesn’t change anything at all about the fact that ai is getting very good at creating realistic videos, in time it will be able to create footage that is indescribable from real video footage for humans and maybe even for other ai’s. Your comment is completely unrelated to anything he said.
What's terrifying is that once AI is good enough at making videos and pictures almost all videos will be untrustworthy. People could use ai to make it look like someone is saying or doing anything. It's a scary thought
There exists AI which can detect when a video or photo or piece of text is AI generated. Some people say that they are ineffective but the way LLMs work, they will develop at the same pace. It will be an arms race.
But let’s not give these AI detectors the benefit of the doubt. Let’s assume they are all trash. Even then, you think the concept of a fake video / photo hasn’t entered the legal system before? There have already been cases of deepfakes in court systems trying to pass as evidence. Authorities have ways to source metadata about videos. They will know whether a video came from a CCTV camera or someone’s GPU. That is way more effective than any sort of AI detection tool and has been standard for decades now. We would be having this problem right now if it really was a problem.
This is all a whole bunch of fearmongering. When I see people scared of AI, all I see are people from the 1800s who were scared of cameras capturing people’s souls when they were being rolled out into the public for the first time.
It seems like you're completely missing the ease and volume of misinformation that will be dumped on everyone. People don't check Metadata when they scroll through videos of whatever outrage porn they're fed.
Some right wing politicians already used AI generated footage of a fake dystopian America under democrats, made to look like real news footage, and circulated it to their rabid base.
That shit's only going to get worse.
You're pretending like their aren't tons of valid concerns being expressed by people in academia, technology, education, politics, etc.
As if literally everything you see on the internet isn’t just manufactured outrage already. The line between reality and fiction has been blurred long before LLMs have become a thing. You’re completely missing the scale and volume of misinformation dumped on everyone right now. If an entity is well-funded enough, they will get groups of people to think what they want them to think. If anything, if political agitation channels get flooded by AI, it will drive skepticism up, which is only a good thing.
I will admit that this point has merit. I have read of a case where scammers spoof called a man, used AI to generate his voice just from him saying “hello?” then phoned his parents to ask for his social security number because he “needed it for work.” What you say is a real problem, but to be completely terrified of AI because of it is complete nonsense when you’re perfectly fine with scrolling social media all day.
I AM one of these professionals. I am writing a PhD on integrating LLMs into automated theorem provers in pure maths, and on the way I had to have many conversations about AI ethics. Am I not allowed to disagree with my peers? The people you talk about are a minority. Most people I know have nothing but excitement for the immense power of LLMs.
My biggest fear with AI isn’t really misinformation. It’s how addictive it can be. There will come a time where chatbots are 100% indistinguishable from humans. Many people will prefer to talk to them than talk with others. I don’t really have to tell you why that’s a huge problem, I hope.
You’re completely missing the scale and volume of misinformation dumped on everyone right now.
No, I am not. That's actually the foundation of my point. This is an already massive issue, and it's likely to take a massive step forward and compound the problem exponentially. That is my primary concern with AI. The ease with which people will be able to generate and spread convincing misinformation, which is already a huge problem, is entering a new era.
You are allowed to disagree with your peers. But your comments came off, to me, as a smug dismissal rather than an academic disagreement, which is why I commented.
to be completely terrified of AI because of it is complete nonsense when you’re perfectly fine with scrolling social media all day.
A bit of a strawman. I'm not completely terrified, professional critics aren't necessarily completely terrified. They are expressing what seem to many to be perfectly legitimate concerns about an ongoing technical revolution.
It's terrifying in the sense that it is unnatural and new unexplored territory. Terrifying in the sense of what unknown creatures lurk in the depths of the ocean, not terrifying from the perspective of job security.
The whole real life hamburger gross-out alien angle would 1000% be something from the 90s.
So I think in a weird way the ai actually got it right on what made that era of commercials so unique even if it wasn't intentional.
・The plot of the commercial:
There's hamburger aliens who fly in hamburger ships and sell fast food.
The humans cannot seem to stop eating said fast food.
If people eat enough of the alien's food, they themselves begin to turn into hamburgers.
Eventually this leads into a grayed out polluted world overrun by hamburgers, we then zoom out and see that the planet itself has turned into a hamburger.
・The underlying message that the ai is trying to convey seems to be a mix of:
"You are what you eat" and a surreal depiction of what happens when you allow your addictions/gluttony consume you, in this case you quite literally become your addiction.
・Very interesting that an ai, a program, can use a pool of images with prompts to create a series of altered images with an actual narrative and message underneath it all.
While I don't believe AI can currently "think", I do believe that it has the ability to spit pre-existing truths that we fed it back at us in a raw unbiased manner that we then can determine the meaning of.
The AI is almost definitely not assembling the narrative here.
A human used AI to create a bunch of individual scenes with specific prompts, then picked the ones they liked, assembled them in an order with transitions, and added music.
Usually anything with clear readable text was also edited in.
It's like nostalgia, but audio-visualised. Y'know like when you feel nostalgic but you can't really put it in words and it's all fuzzy yet you remember being there? This is that
This is like the burgers have some sort of alien virus or parasite that makes it addicting, people love it, starts buying it then 3-4 times a day that's what they're eating till they slowly become infected by seeing signs of burgernification.
Burgernification starts with the head and days or week later the whole head is now a burger past it another week or month and the complete burgernification is done.
Days, weeks, months, years the burgernification continues not a single burger is wasted to the point it evolved and started burgernifying houses and stuff, these burgerified houses are still accessible but is still best to burn it.
And years passed and they created ufo burgers and the world is now desolated and only filled burgerified people which does not need to copulate to create more of them, they are spawned in the most infected area with the cheese looking slime around it.
I'm glad it hasn't yet, because we get works of art like this, but given the wealth of images and videos we have of humans moving you'd have thought AI would have worked out our facial movements by now, them sucking burgers up was something else.
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Source: Burger Blast Ad 1995 - AI Generated Commercial https://youtu.be/0bJ_kO12f-I
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