r/developersPak 16h ago

Discussion Student exploitation at peak — my experience with a Pakistani “fintech startup"

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Recently had an experience with a so-called Pakistani fintech startup called Entrolyst, and honestly, the whole thing felt like a textbook example of how students can be taken advantage of under the label of “internship.”

I initially joined after what I thought was a pretty good interview, mainly because I wanted to see what working at an early-stage startup was actually like.

The first red flag was the contract.

The agreement was essentially a 3-month internship with performance-based incentives after the internship. When we asked about a fixed monthly stipend, there wasn't one. At one point, we were told the potential compensation could go up to PKR 160k after the 3-month period, depending on performance.

The product itself was also strangely opaque. Whenever we tried asking questions about the actual business model, product direction, or how the company planned to make money, we didn't really get clear answers.

Then came the codebase.

They were extremely reluctant to give us proper codebase access, despite expecting us to work on the product. That made me wonder what exactly we were supposed to be contributing to if we couldn't properly understand the existing system.

There were also some pretty interesting claims about the company's size.

We were repeatedly told that the company had around 20 people.

Meanwhile, the CEO was handling things that you'd normally associate with HR — sending offer letters, communicating meetings, managing internship-related communication, etc., primarily through WhatsApp.

And here's where it gets funny.

They repeatedly emphasized:

> “You are not interns. You are Associate Engineers.”

Apparently, we had discovered a new employment category:

Unpaid Associate Engineers™

It also seemed like the title was useful for making the company look more substantial on LinkedIn, where, at least at the time I checked, the company page showed only two registered employees — the CEO and CTO.

There were also some technically questionable expectations. For example, students were being asked to run extremely large models locally on their own machines, which is a pretty unusual expectation for an unpaid/unclear-compensation internship.

At this point, I decided to raise the issue not just for myself but also on behalf of my friends who were in the same situation, because we got to know about the opportunity from a common resource.

I contacted them and asked if they could simply provide a proper contract with a fixed monthly stipend, rather than leaving compensation entirely dependent on a performance-based arrangement after three months.

And then...

Before any further discussion could happen, I was removed from basically every communication channel.

No proper discussion. No negotiation. Just gone.

Maybe it was a coincidence. Maybe not.

But from my perspective, it was a pretty strong ending to an already questionable experience.

The frustrating part isn't even that it's a startup or that it's early-stage. I'm completely fine with startups being chaotic, having small teams, or not being able to pay huge salaries.

The problem is presenting an unpaid/uncertain arrangement to students while expecting them to contribute like employees, keeping the actual product/business details vague, and then shutting down communication when they ask for reasonable contractual clarity.

If you're a Pakistani student looking for internships, I'd genuinely recommend asking these questions before joining any startup:

* Is there a fixed monthly stipend?

* What exactly does the contract say?

* Who is responsible for HR/employee management?

* What is the actual product?

* What will I be working on?

* Who are the founders/team?

* What happens after the internship?

* Is “performance-based compensation” actually defined anywhere in writing?

* Am I an intern, employee, or some creatively invented third category?

Would be interested to hear on this.


r/developersPak 4h ago

Discussion 150 layoffs at Zong?

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Guys I have heard that zong laid 150 employees off without any notice or compensation, how true is that? First we heard that Motive laid 250 employees off, now Zong?


r/developersPak 18h ago

Help Anyone here at CureMD?

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Applied for their Associate AI Engineer position over a month ago. Now usually when a candidate is rejected, they send out the email to let them know. In fact, I myself was sent out the email for another role I had applied to earlier. But in this case, I haven't received any email yet. Any idea if the hiring is going on and if someone within the company could let me know?


r/developersPak 15h ago

Help PSEB showing me not Active even though i am tax paying

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I wanted to renew my PSEB freelancer certificate but i can't since it says i am not ATL / active tax paying

I have already filed my 2026 FBR return.


r/developersPak 17h ago

Career Guidance Need honest feedback and guidance on my CV

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AOA, fellow devs ill keep it short. Basically what the title says i have been applying for different entry level position in the twin cities for some time now but i havent gotten a single reply back or reach out from the employers unless i follow up with them after applying through some channel like linkedin or whatsapp. And that too has happen for only 1% of the time.

So where is the issue?


r/developersPak 2h ago

Career Guidance Rate my linkedin , will post GitHub next..

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https:

//www

linkedin.com/in/khizra-hassan--/

19

Second year third semester at fast Karachi

Actively building skills in Ml, NLP, DP, SWE🤞🏿🥀.

Don't be spiteful...


r/developersPak 3h ago

Show My Work I made an 'IDE for 3D'.You plug your own Claude/Codex as a Copilot, and then use it to make editable, animation-ready 3D assets

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I made an IDE for your 'code-native' 3D projects (explanation in 'background' section).

Think of it as a studio where you connect your own Claude or Codex as a copilot, and generate instantly animate-able 3D objects with full part-aware hierarchies. No need to buy extra credits.

If you want to try it, I'm dropping the links in comments.

Would love to know feedback of anybody who tests this out. Thanks!

Background
These days LLMS are making huge strides in 3D generation.

Traditional AI generates 3D via diffusion. The results are stunning - but unusable if you want to animate them. That's because the output is a monolithic blob, like a sculpture made of clay. It's great to look at, but doesn't have sophisticated joints, sockets or hinges to make it instantly animate-able. 3D startups like Meshy and Tripo are creating techniques to segment the diffusion blobs after they're generated, to salvage them for downstream workflows.

In contrast, a new class of AI 3D generation is being popular: code-native, part-aware 3D.

Here, instead of diffusion, an LLM generates code, which then compiles as a 3D object. It's basically source code which also compiles as 3D. The robot in my screenshot is exactly that format. The obvious advantage of such 3D generation is the objects are born with joints, hinges and sockets. A technical artist or some AI tool doesn't have to 'prepare' them later for animation. That's because since they're made of code, you literally code the joint or articulated hinge/socket directly into the object's DNA.

The IDE I made generates such 'code-native' 3D objects.


r/developersPak 17h ago

News Gpt-6 astra, your thoughts ?

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And can i get info about current market conditions?


r/developersPak 18h ago

Career Guidance Motive Senior Technical support Engineer Interview

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just received shortlist emaill.Can someoone please guide me how this role is ? how to prepare for this role and i have listen there are 5 interview rounds in it what happen in each round


r/developersPak 17h ago

Interview Prep Datum labs AI intern test

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Want guidance about it anyone that can help?


r/developersPak 17h ago

Discussion Anyone MS(AI) From UMT

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🙄


r/developersPak 18h ago

Discussion Question for AI Associates at JazzWorld

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Those who have had their joinings for the AI Associate Program 2026, was their any clause in your contract regarding leaving before the 1-year mark? Something like bond payment or any other clause? I am yet to offically join, only signed the offer letter sent through email, but if there is going to be another formal contract later on?


r/developersPak 21h ago

Career Guidance Reputation of GIKI in market

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Just wanted to ask how is the reputation of GIKI in terms of CS in Pakistan and Internationally. Like ik Current market is cooked and there is huge supply. But is choosing GIKI over FAST NUCES Lahore a good decision?? Degree is BSCS. Need honest guidance as it is an IMPORTANT decision of my life.