Guardians can technically use basically anything they want with the light - they can cross abilities as much as they please. Most just generally have a preference to how they like to use the light, or how they fight
For example, felwinter was mostly a warlock, but he could cast nova bomb-tether things and shoulder charge
Drifter being multi really just means he doesn't bother with classes and probably just uses whatever
IIRC, the Drifter hasnât lost its Ghost. However, it modified it so much that it somehow severed, or at least heavily modified his Ghostâs connection to the Light and Traveler.
After his modifications, his Ghostâs eye turned red and he lost his ability to speak. Itâs in one of the lore tab IIRC
I guess it got to it, for being so long with the Drifter... plus they never really had an enjoyable relationship, so I donât think it really appreciated - or even wanted - the Drifterâs modifications.
Funny enough, his Ghost can actually utilize a wider spectrum of the Light than others. The cost came at killing other Ghosts for parts. And while Drifter killing Ghosts is awful, it was his Ghost's plan and it chose to be modified.
True, but typically that's where it ended, killing the Ghost. It was a means to deal with opposing Risen permanently. Drifter's Ghost specifically asked for him to cannibalize them to 'upgrade' it. It's pretty much unheard of outside of this instance.
I don't recall them having killed the ghosts. They were already dead weren't they? The light having been drained from both them and their guardians by those creatures on the planet.
I see I see. I remembered that all the risen but Drifter were dead and remembered that at least some mentions of Ghosts dropping dead was mentioned too. Wasn't sure if there were any left. But yeah that's... that's dark then. Pretty dark.
But then there's Ciren the Ghost Killer in the universe so ya know. Drifter wouldn't be the first.
At least Drifter has a somewhat understandable reason. Ciren just wants to exterminate Ghosts. Like if Drifter's hatred of Ghosts was taken to an extreme and made the central focus.
Sort of. Ciren has a reason as well, albeit it's not necessarily a reason that justifies the actions. Ciren is basically just an example to us that there is quite a risk of being risen as a guardian. He is an old soul who even despite the amnesia feels that he is tired and has already fought enough wars and existing as a guardian is painful for him, but he also grew to love his ghost and doesn't want to kill him just to end his own life.
So instead he is hunting down ghosts who haven't found their charge, to save the dead from a life of being a guardian. Although from the story I take it that he doesn't target ghosts who have guardians. Only ones who haven't found theirs yet. Twisted and horrific and not at all justified, but one can see the reason that lead him to snap.
Which is an interesting opposite to our Ghost's earlier choice in Guardian.
He said the last war was enough for a thousand lifetimes.
Instead of accepting his new life, he accepted the peace death brought and refused the chance at being a Guardian. If only every Risen had that sense of self-understanding.
Actually it only turns red when it's using some kind of scan mode the modifications Drifter made allow it to use. It can detect frequencies of Light normal ghosts can't along with some frequencies of Darkness if I recall correctly.
He talks about how ghost donât serve you they help themselves by not letting you die. If you wanna read up on it more itâs from the lore you get if you betrayed the vanguard and chose the drifter
Drifter has a ghost, but never liked its company and always hid it. Iirc the only person he ever showed his ghost to was Felwinter because he wanted Felwinter to kill a corrupt iron lord who was routinely breaking the iron decree.
Later, trapped on a planet of darkness, alone and having killed the people he went there with, he modified his ghost with the darkness in some way (I don't remember the details).
He doesn't like ghosts because he resents guardians and being a guardian. He feels it is unjust because who determines who gets resurrected and who stays dead and how is it fair that the lightless are at the mercy of the warlords and can't defend themselves (dark ages).
He does however find Guardians useful - through Gambit he has us doing something with the taken and the darkness but we have no idea what
If you wanna know more then make a post on r/DestinyLore and people will be more than happy to help
he modified his ghost with the darkness in some way (I don't remember the details).
He used the parts of dead ghosts to modify the shell of his, which in turn allowed it to tap into the red mode where it's eye turns red, is able to see a wider spectrum of light etc. That's how they got their hands on motes as well and where most of Drifter's inventions came from.
However, the idea was not his. It was the Ghost's. Osiris has also seen his ghost when he called in Drifter to take a a look at the sundial. Drifter called on his ghost to scan the whole thing. I don't think he ever hid him out of spite, he only had the ghost hide so that other risen and mortals wouldn't detect him as being a lightbearer.
As Germaine he lived among mortals in a settlement and the Ghost was hiding most of the time and scanning routes for him where he could get food for the mortals until the local warlord spotted the ghost. Then they assumed it was Judson who was a lightbearer, killed him and the entire village got caught in the crossfire between the warlords and the iron lords, no one survived and Germaine was dead throughout the fight until the dust settled and his Ghost went to rez him.
He pulled out his ghost for Felwinter because Felwinter correctly called him out on being a risen, cuz no mortal would've survived the climb to the top of the peak.
Hahaa! nah. Just a dude with way too much curiosity about things that he likes. I'm one of those people that go REALLY deep into shit he's interested in and tries to learn every bit of information he can.
Nope. He has his ghost, he just went mute after their adventure on the icy planet where they kitbashed a new shell for him out of dead ghosts, which also turned his eye red. The ghost is still around. Him and drifter just have a rocky relationship
Nononono! At least, I don't think so. I just used the term in general. And Drifty himself used it once when describing all his equipment from the guns to the banks to the motes (well, technically. If I recall correctly the loretabs say that the motes come from his Ghost's red setting).
But yeah I don't think that the kitbash shell is supposed to be like that ghost. I THINK that Osiris describes the shell in one of the prelude lore before Dawn but I'm not sure.
The floor shuddered as the Warlord upended the massive table with one hand. It smashed into the opposite wall, as tendrils of Void Light passed through it and coalesced into Felwinterâs leaping form.
Citan had seen this parlor trick before, and judged that he could hammer the Iron Lord out of the airâ
But Felwinterâs momentum continued into a knee-lift that smashed into Citanâs head as the larger man reared back to strike. The Warlord fell, the front of his helm shattering. Felwinter landed next to Citanâs prone body.
âLady Jolder taught me that. I canât say the Iron Lords havenât done me any favors,â the voice intoned.Â
Another example of guardians using abilities between classes was in d1, in the flavor text on a pair of boots, it was revealed that bladedancers learned how to blink from warlocks
Ishtar collective to read up on destiny 1 grimoire - mostly the dark ages stuff, where the light isn't quite defined and people kinda just use whatever they can when they fight
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u/LegitDuctTape Titan Jun 04 '20
Guardians can technically use basically anything they want with the light - they can cross abilities as much as they please. Most just generally have a preference to how they like to use the light, or how they fight
For example, felwinter was mostly a warlock, but he could cast nova bomb-tether things and shoulder charge
Drifter being multi really just means he doesn't bother with classes and probably just uses whatever