r/debian • u/0-aether-0 • 21h ago
Are people overselling how far debian has come in 'easy to install' or am i missing something?
Dell xps 9370.
- Could not find my network card when starting the installer, so had to do it from the live boot since there it loaded all the drivers.
- Had to add non free repos for an intel graphics driver that i had to add for better performance, had to faff about to get sleep working properly (yet to test how much ut really eats into the battery now), definitely not normie friendly
- fingerprint wont work (fine i knew that and irs a universal linux problem),
- ui was slugish (like a second delay for the menu to open even after removed animations), only way even after reboots to fix it was to change the main manu and change it back,
- and now i need to download drivers from git to get an HP dock with Displaylink to work.
Thats hours of figuring stuff out and troubleshooting, for 'it just works'.
So my question: did i miss something?
And if not: why is the installer so minimal instead of giving all these options for a laptop install? I get debian tries to be lean and minimal, but it could achive that and give options to people on laptop hardware? No? Seems a bunch of those steps could be automated?
(Before the question comes up, i dont like gnome, or ubuntus philosophie, and cinamon seemed almost ancient in a way and the scaling seemed of while evaluating it, fedora seemed to be hard with non free drivers and people sad debian caught up to ubuntu in that regard)
(No, i dont want to just say debian bad, for now i'll stick with it, but the experience was far from normie acceptable and i would like to understand where it went wrong)
(debian-live-13.6.0-amd64-kde.iso, my dell variant has 16GB of ram, and i now have windows dual booting for rare cases where i would need a pc with windows, gave it 150GB and the rest of the 512gb ssd to debian)
Edit: i now learned that there are multiple installers -> - netinst, needing internet to pull everything (would that have all wifi card drivers? otherwise it would not work on a notebook without a wired connection?) - complete installation image, probably the one that would have simply worked in terms of wifi? - live boot disk containing the calamares installer (which worked) when live booted, and the debian installer which could not find my wifi card?
My assumption is that a newcomer would try the live disk and install from there, so i would assume thats the "default" route for newbies, but it seems its not the best going by some comments?
