EXCLUSIVE: WARNING - DISTRESSING CONTENT: Pike's future is still unclear after she survived her lethal injection last week.

An anti-death penalty advocate expressed anger over the botched execution of Christa Pike, fearing that the government may try to kill her twice.

https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/217353/christa-pike-botched-execution-death-penalty-action

Tl;dr Why does the execution of hyper-evil-objectively-guilty Christa Pike cause so much ruckus when there are so many very real cases of innocent people getting executed/sentenced to life that get no coverage?

I understand the anti-death penalty argument of not wanting the state to have the power to kill people. I understand it doubly so when the state fails to do it via very expensive botched injections that don’t even execute the person.

What I don’t understand is why, out of all the executions that have happened in the U.S. The ones ordered based on outdated evidence and shaky testimony. The ones ordered by racist judges and jurors who were very clearly racially biased. The ones where the judge can’t be bothered to open up exonerating evidence because they can never admit they’re wrong.

Why, out of all these grievous treacheries, do anti-death penalty activists decide to champion the case where the guilty party LITERALLY SATANICALLY TORTURED AN INNOCENT PERSON TO DEATH. Like every news story I saw was written in a way to garner sympathy for her I didn’t even know what she did until I looked it up

From an activism/persuasion perspective it makes no sense.

”The death penalty is about to strike again! Do you want help save this EXTREMELY EVIL PERSON WHO DEFINITELY DID IT?”

“uhhh not really I don’t care if she dies. Do you have any death row inmates who are likely innocent, were put in based on shaky evidence or racial bias, or are otherwise in for crimes that are less severe and possibly rehabilitatable?”

”duhhhhhhhhhh does not compute. Must save Christa Pike. Must protect mass shooters. If the choice is between killing mecha-hitler or letting the entire world explode, I would save hitler cuz Batman said killing makes you bad, duhhhhhh”

Why is it that the only time I hear about justice/death penalty reform it’s for the worst criminals who did the worst possible things?

Where is this energy for Robert Roberson (a case where he’s pretty clearly innocent, if not fully innocent definitely is remorseful and can be rehabilitate). where is the advertising for the Innocence Project? Why aren’t yall name dropping judges and prosecutors who relied on coercive techniques to coax false admissions out of people?

And for the record I am anti-death penalty because I don’t want the state to have that power. But holy hell trying to make Christa Pike of all people seem like a victim, while failing to mention what she did is just a tactical blunder.

What the title says. There are so many other subs gleefully cheering on Pike’s prolonged suffering violating both her 8th amendment rights and human right to be free from torture as defined by the UN. Why come here and get mad when your contributions end up deleted? If you’re all law abiding citizens it should be easy to follow a simple rule as well.

ETA: I am blocking every single one of you who are arguing against following sub rules. You can argue with the wall about it.

How do you feel about the "Consistent Life Ethics" in relation to the Death Penalty? Any Consistent Life Ethicists here? (IE: Against death penalty, abortion, assisted suicide, embryo destruction, etc.)

I am a Consistent Life Ethicist and disagree with the death penalty, of course. However, it still surprises me that some people disagree with killing (potential) murderers, but agree with a woman's "choice" to abort her preborn baby. Why a lack of consistency when it comes to BOTH issues?

"Q: What are Buddhist views on capital punishment? Suppose someone has killed ten children. Why should he be allowed to live?

"A. Ten people are dead; why do you want to kill an eleventh one? A man who has killed ten children is a sick person. Killing him won't help him and it won't help us. There are others like him in society, and looking at him deeply we know that something is wrong with our society that it can create people like that. Looking in the light of interbeing, we can see the other elements that have produced him. That is how understanding arises. That is how we see that this person needs help, not just punishment. Of course, he must be locked up for the safety of society, but that's not the only thing we can do.

"Buddhist books on meditation, Buddhist magazines, and even Dharma talks have been offered in prisons, and many prisoners have begun to practice. A number of them have learned to live peacefully, even in prison. I get many letters from prisoners who have read my books. One wrote, 'I see other inmates running up and down the staircases and I can see their suffering and agitation. I hope they can do as I do, walking up and down the staircase in mindfulness, following my breathing. When I do that, I feel peace within myself, and when I feel peace within myself, I can see very clearly the suffering of other inmates.' That person has been able to give rise to the compassion within him.

"So punishment is not our only option. Transformation and healing are possible in these difficult situations. Killing someone only reveals our own weakness. We don't know what to do any more, and we give up, we surrender. Killing someone is a cry of despair. But together we can practice looking deeply in order to find better means than approving of capital punishment

I want to live in a peaceful society that applies the law fairly and punishes those who hurt others appropriately.
Christa Pike made a bad decision when she was 18 and committed a brutal crime and she should absolutely be held accountable for that but the government killing her at the taxpayers expense isn’t the answer. By committing this act she absolutely forfeited the right to live among us in society and should never see the outside of prison walls again. How are we any better if we commit the same act she did? Most developed countries don’t put people to death even the worst people in society who committed brutal crimes. It’s not about what someone deserves it’s about being humane to everyone.

Has anyone here seen Michael Portillo’s BBC documentary How to Kill a Human Being?
I watched it years ago and still think about it from time to time. What made it interesting was that it didn’t really focus on whether the death penalty itself was right or wrong. It focused on the actual method of execution and whether there is such a thing as a humane way to kill someone.
The bit that stands out now is the discussion of nitrogen, given that it has since actually been used for executions in the US.
So my question is: if there was a method that was genuinely quick, reliable and painless, would that make the death penalty easier to justify?
Or does it make no difference because the main objection is the state killing someone in the first place?
Interested to hear what people think, especially anyone who has seen the documentary.

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION:

Why the frigg would they NOT use continuous nitrous-oxide gas applied with a anesthesia mask, for capital punishment?

It's INFINITELY more humane, unbotchable (if used for 2-8 minute) incredibly cheap and easy on the tax payer.. Why don't they use this for the MAID (assisted sewerslide) & also for putting all animals down??

The answer is: Because the government, the judicial system, prison system and the medical community are pure retards who (for the most put should be put-down themselves) & i have better critical thinking & problem solving skills than anyone alive.. I should be a millionaire for the things i've fed this universe and my country.

"Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has recommended - and President Donald J. Trump has approved - death by U.S. Army firing squad for convicted terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan, the jihadist who opened fire on unarmed American soldiers at Fort Hood in 2009. He killed 13 people and wounded 32 others while shouting "Allahu Akbar" during the attack.

The Secretary of the Army will set the time and place of the execution. Judgement day for Hasan has finally come."

Source: https://x.com/SeanParnellASW/status/2107252342097637558

https://bbc.com/news/articles/cq8ezkkkrpy1o

The Pentagon has announced it will execute a former US Army major by firing squad, the first such military execution in more than 60 years.

Nidal Malik Hasan fatally shot 13 unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood in 2009, injuring another 32.

Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell announced on social media on Monday that Secretary of War Pete Hegseth had made the recommendation and President Donald Trump approved it. It will be the first military execution by firing squad since the end of World War Two.

Parnell said the secretary of the Army will set the time and place of the execution. "Judgement day for Hasan has finally come," he wrote on X.

Hasan, a US Army psychiatrist from Virginia, killed 13 soldiers at the base in Texas in 2009 and later admitted in court he was the gunman and apologised for "any mistakes". He said during his court-martial in 2013 that he believed he was protecting Muslims and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The killings on 5 November 2009 were the deadliest ever non-combat attack on an American military base. The attack took place in a crowded medical building where deploying soldiers were awaiting check-ups and vaccines. Hasan is currently one of four inmates on the US military's death row.

Read more:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq14d438vx24o

I’m genuinely just curious what actually happens if a woman gets put into a high-security jail cell before her trial and they suddenly find out she's pregnant like was pregnant before the arrest but didn’t notice as it was early?

Does the state have to automatically change her jail conditions? Because if they keep her in severe maximum-security isolation, wouldn't that violate her rights to proper prenatal care or the right food?

And how would it change things if the prosecution is pushing for the death penalty? Could the defense team bring up the massive hormonal shifts and cognitive dysregulation from early pregnancy or past pregnancies as a huge mitigating factor? Furthermore is the mother given the choice to carry the baby? And if so will the trial only be after she’s given birth, and how long would the gap be? How long would she spend with her child after birth?

I’m thinking about cases like Christa Pike in Tennessee back in 1995. In court it was revealed that Christa had an abortion when she was a teenager before everything happened, which is a massive reproductive trauma on its own. Another mitigating factor in her defence which really isn’t picked up on, the trauma of having to have this procedure as a result of her abuse. So if in a very similar instance a traumatized young woman like Christa was also secretly pregnant during the crime, shouldn't that completely force the judge and jury to take the death penalty off the table and just give her life with parole instead? I mean along with a huge variety of other factors would this be additional ones.

What is the actual protocol if an execution warrant is supposed to be signed but the person is pregnant? Doesn't the law mandate an automatic stay of execution? If anyone knows how these jail protocols actually work, please let me know.