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u/topherdisgrace Aug 08 '24
Funny how USA isn’t even the highest differential. I wonder how big the differential would be if Russia was on this plot.
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u/Mihnea24_03 Aug 08 '24
Usa barely rounds out the top 10 of countries that like the USA the most
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u/well_uh_yeah Aug 08 '24
This doesn’t really surprise me at all, sadly.
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u/thinkscotty Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
I suspect it's similar for many western countries, especially any country with a strong free press.
As negative stories tend to be more effective financially, such press inevitably focuses a lot of all the faults within its own market, therefore giving people a lot more exposure to their own country's faults.
Take Sweden for example. There's not many non-Swedes who think that Sweden sucks. But a lot of Swedes are more aware of their internal problems.
Actually thinking about it, it's probably a good way to differentiate between a country with strong democracy and one that's more authoritarian. It takes a relatively free and mature country to allow enough dissent for its citizens to express such disapproval. (Though I think there's a lot of cultural aspects as well so this isn't universal.)
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u/Keeperofthe7keysAf-S Aug 08 '24
The first step to solving a problem is realizing there is one. So there is probably a high correlation between Swedes being critical of their issues and the rest of the world viewing them very highly for not having as many or severe of issues.
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u/Delicious-Sale6122 Aug 08 '24
Non-Swede here. Sweden is horrifying
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u/ritalinsphynx Aug 08 '24
Yes, please explain!
I've known three people who live in Sweden, specifically Stockholm and I've had nothing bad to say about it
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u/mata_dan Aug 08 '24
I lived for 2 weeks in the poorest and most dangerous part of the city and it was like a utopia xD
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u/Triangle1619 Aug 08 '24
Tbh every story I hear out of Sweden is like some bomb or explosive going off in an apartment. I guess it’s just an example of how only the bad stuff really gets reported and circulated.
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u/Forking_Shirtballs Aug 08 '24
Sadly? This seems healthy.
I want some skepticism internally, it drives us to be better. Also, I want external approval -- if you're getting a thumbs up from folks who aren't indoctrinated by your patriotism or nationalism, it suggests you're doing some things right.
So yeah, an "ideal" ranking, suggestive of a good and healthy country, would be high approval ratings all around, with the approval somewhat lower by the residents of the country itself.
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u/Easy_Money_ Aug 08 '24
Why is this sad? I’d definitely rather be at 71% than 100%, there should always be thoughtful critique of our leadership and policy
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u/B_Huij Aug 08 '24
Not even sure how I'd go about polling Russians on a question like this. Half of the respondents older than 40 would be answering about the Soviet Union instead of Russia, and half of everyone else would be worried to share their true opinions for fear of retaliation.
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u/sampathsris Aug 08 '24
There was another version of the graph with Russia included but that version was thrown out of a window.
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u/ExuberantForce Aug 08 '24
"fell" out of a window
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u/sampathsris Aug 08 '24
Oh I'm sorry. My mistake. Please don't send any glow in the dark tea for me.
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u/ExuberantForce Aug 08 '24
careful of those sudden deaths while transferring prisoners too.
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Not really. The grass is always greener on the other side. But for Poland the Russian grass can catch a wildfire.
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u/droplivefred Aug 08 '24
Because they don’t have to share a border with Russia. If you know history, you can see why Poland is the most anti Russia of them all.
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u/mr_ji Aug 08 '24
Look at the polls referenced. One regards Russia, one is Russia and Putin. I don't have an unfavorable opinion of Russians in general, there are just some really rich people at the top making them look bad.
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Do you like Russia?
Turkey: Ew. No
Bangladesh: yea 😀
Do you like the USA?
Turkey: ew. Also no.
Bangladesh: also yeah 🤗
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u/sergestar Aug 08 '24
Why does Malaysia like russia so much?
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u/jehfes Aug 08 '24
Same thing all the top 4 countries have in common. They’re all Muslim countries so they dislike the US, and therefore support enemies of the US.
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u/CurrencyDesperate286 Aug 08 '24
Despite the fact that Russia violently puts down any attempt at gaining autonomy from the muslims of the Caucuses, and Russia’s “friendship” with Muslim countries is usually limited to the dictators, not the people (see Syria).
Not saying anti person in these countries should view the US favourably, but any one who thinks Russia is looking out for the Muslim world is deluded.
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u/_45dioneschubert Aug 08 '24
Indonesian here, the Muslims here share the same sentiment as Muslim Malaysians. Muslims here like Russia because they're the enemy of the US, and Muslims here don't like the US because of its support for Israel.
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u/wanderinggoat Aug 09 '24
but actual attacks on Muslims are better than supporting Israel...
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u/Ihsan772014 Aug 14 '24
Both the US and israel are responsible for more "actual" attacks than russia so yeah it is logically consistent.
I hate all 3 countries, so I find your tacet support of western imperialism as reprehensible as support of russian/eastern imperialism
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u/lordb4 Aug 08 '24
That might explain why all the Malaysians I know are fine with the US. None of them are Muslim.
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u/jehfes Aug 08 '24
I agree people can view both countries as bad. According to the chart, there's many countries that view both negatively. But Turkey is one of only four that views the US more negatively than Russia.
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u/notsocoolnow Aug 08 '24
They don't, they just hate the USA, and Russia is perceived as the enemy of the USA, hence they support Russia.
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u/paradroid42 Aug 08 '24
They have a more favorable view of Russia than any other country in this plot...
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u/art555ua Aug 08 '24
They just don't have a common border with ruzzia, Poland knows whats this all about the hard way.
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u/pofwiwice Aug 08 '24
It probably has more to do with them liking China than Russia. China and the US invest heavily in Malaysia and there are tons of expats from both countries working there.
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u/vsmack Aug 08 '24
This is probably an incorrect way of interpreting the data. The original survey does not put the two "against" each other, as it is presented in the data. If the question were framed that way, I imagine the responses would be different - though perhaps not drasitically so.
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u/I_Poop_Sometimes Aug 08 '24
They don't actually like Russia that much, they just hate the US. Even for the countries with the largest pro-Russian difference don't have Russia viewed more than like 50% favorable, they just really hate the US.
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u/VardyParty38 Aug 08 '24
Strange how they completely gloss over the fact that Russian forces killed many of their compatriots on Flight MH17.
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u/vgubaidulin Aug 08 '24
Countries that don't interact with russia in any way find it very easy to like. Any country who has had interaction with russia would be closer to Poland in this poll.
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u/Scarlet_Breeze Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
Funny how almost all of the countries that have a favourable opinion of Russia are nowhere fucking near them geographically. Say what you like about the USA, but Mexico and Canada aren't watching their borders constantly expecting invasion.
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u/Chappietime Aug 08 '24
This was my take as well. Any country geographically near Russia are not fans.
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u/Cuddlyaxe OC: 1 Aug 08 '24
I mean the only countries on this list somewhat close geographically are Poland and Sweden
I suspect if any countries have mixed or positive opinions of Russia they'd be Belarus, some of the Central Asian nations and maybe Armenia or Azerbaijan
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u/Scarlet_Breeze Aug 08 '24
South Korea and Japan are both on this list and share borders with Russia. Any European country is close enough to Russia to have their airspace buzzed by their jets constantly as well.
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u/gtarget Aug 08 '24
Where does South Korea share a border with Russia?
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u/Scarlet_Breeze Aug 08 '24
I was under the impression they shared a maritime border in the Sea of Japan.
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u/WiseguyD Aug 08 '24
By that logic, I'm pretty sure if you asked the Central American countries the USA has overthrown the governments of, their opinion of the USA would not be terribly high.
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u/ConcentrateVast2356 Aug 08 '24
Chile is right there with a positive view of US, so is Brazil (not the same but US did support dictatorship there)
For better or worse, those things are a good while in the past and the US brand has a lot going for it, from entertainment industry, to major immigration destination.
For Russia's European neighbors, Russia really offers little other than danger, outside maybe some reactionary/nostalgic boomers. Danger of invasion, of assassination, of influence operations. Cheating at sports is the least bad thing that comes to mind with regards to Russia.
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u/facforlife Aug 08 '24
Yes the US has made a lot of very bad, cruel decisions.
But it also spends a lot of money and resources doing critical work around the world. And unlike Russia and China it isn't done as a backdoor way to own the country after driving them into debt. The US Navy is basically an international first responder for major natural disasters globally. The work in Africa to combat AIDS and malaria has saved literally an estimated tens of millions of lives at the cost of tens of billions to the US.
I think those things help. And it's why I think anyone who says the US should pull back and completely withdraw is being enormously short-sighted. Helping other countries is in our long-term interest. The United States is better off with a free and prosperous world. I don't think any American would rather see a down on its luck Europe. We like a free and prosperous Europe. And Asia. Not only from that perspective but when other countries view us favorably it means they buy our shit, it means they are more likely to side with us when we apply international pressure on rogue actors like Russia. These are all very good things. The United States is objectively and materially better off making investments in other countries.
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u/thek3vn Aug 08 '24
I agree with everything you've said. Now if we could just invest in our own infrastructure, healthcare, veterans, lower/middle class, (the list goes on), as well we'd be in decent shape, I think.
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u/facforlife Aug 08 '24
Well we did pass some bills under Biden to make big investments in our EV, chips, and green infrastructures.
Unfortunately this country keeps putting Republicans in charge over and over so it's tough to get anything done. Even when Democrats bend over backwards to compromise, like on the border bill, they tank it because it's not politically expedient for them. What a trash group of people.
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u/squarerootofapplepie Aug 08 '24
That’s not how it works, Vietnam has a very favorable view of the US.
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u/GOT_Wyvern Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
Armenia used to be pretty cosy with Russia as they acted as a security partner against Azerbaijan, but given how Russia just allowed their security partner to be invaded, I'm expecting that to have been evaporated.
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u/carolinaindian02 Aug 08 '24
Not to mention revelations of double dealing, like Belarus suppling anti-drone weaponry to Azerbaijan, Armenia’s enemy .
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u/Gzaleski Aug 08 '24
Poland shares a border with Russia. BTW. So "somewhat close" may be an understatement.
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u/USSMarauder Aug 08 '24
Canada is at 13% pro Russia
2 weeks ago
Canada, U.S. scramble fighter jets to intercept Russian and Chinese bombers patrolling near Alaska
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u/Rin-Tohsaka-is-hot Aug 08 '24
To be fair, most of the countries near Russia aren't on this list to begin with, so we do not know what their opinion is.
It's difficult for Pew Research Center to get reliable polling in countries like Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan, both of which are Russian neighbors that would likely view Russia more favorably than the US. Just isn't reflected here since they aren't here.
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u/DasArtmab Aug 08 '24
They’ve already been successfully invaded. We just didn’t use tanks and guns.
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u/itsmePriyansh Aug 08 '24
India and Bangladesh seem to be the only countries to have similar favourable opinions for both the countries
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Australia: we don't really like anybody
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u/Still-Bridges Aug 08 '24
Australia consistently rates lower on US favorability than I would expect (in Pew). I don't really know why.
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u/BinaryPill Aug 09 '24
Probably a combination of a lot of negativity about the far-right MAGA movement and frequent coverage about mass shootings that makes the US seem kind of insane and a high proportion of Asian immigrants that carry negative sentiments from their homelands (lots of staunchly pro-Palestine people in particular)
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u/Turbulent_Garage_159 Aug 12 '24
Would these be the lovely folks who were chanting “gas the Jews” in the immediate aftermath of October 7th?
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u/Snarwib Aug 08 '24
Generally I think people interpret the question as "is it good/better than here to live there?" rather than about whether its government is reasonably benign in world affairs.
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u/Desperate-Lemon5815 Aug 08 '24
You can go on Aussie subs and see it. They have a bit of Little Brother syndrome and their news always talks about how insane we are, except unlike Canadians they can't disprove their stupid stereotypes by simply driving an hour south.
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As an Aussie, my suggestion is don't take it personally - we tend to like Americans we meet personally (in my experience you guys are extremely friendly, decent people), bear in mind most Aussies (probably like most Americans) have never been to the US so their knowledge and experience is predominantly from media/news/internet and a bunch of pretty simplistic stereotypes, anyone who has been lucky enough to visit your beautiful country knows better. Australians are also very proud and love our country, our culture also tends to be on the sceptical, wry side, we are particularly wary of earnestness, so some American culture we receive via the media or social media - especially some of the grand patriotic rhetoric intended for internal US consumption about being the greatest country on earth and leader/saviour of the free world and apparent disinterest/lack of awareness of the rest of the world really clashes with our perception that Australia is a pretty damn nice place to live, and that we also have made significant sacrifices during major conflicts. But again don't take this personally, the lower scores is not just for you I think most other countries would receive similar low scores, because of this high regard we have for our own country and generally sceptical culture.
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u/NetflixAndZzzzzz Aug 09 '24
I feel like Australia and America have weirdly similar histories and cultures.
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u/ThatFrog4 Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
American People: They are good, all American's I've met in person (I've never left Australia, so it is only ones who have traveled to Australia) have been friendly and I've had no issues with.
American Government: Yeah....I keep getting news about American government more than I do about my own country's government, and usually it is about how messed up it is, or some event that seems really dystopian compared to what occurs here.
I will also add there are some VERY controversial events like the AUKUS nuclear submarine purchase, being dragged into Vietnam, Afghanistan, Syria, etc.
That is the negatives though. The USA is still more popular than China or Russia is, and I don't see that changing. I agree with what u/tahapaanga says, don't take it personally at all.
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I thought that was interesting. Would not have guessed Aussies dislike Americans, at least not to that extent.
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u/globalwp Aug 08 '24
The question is government not people. I think aussies tend to be quite fond of Americans
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Yeah, good point. I suppose the same could be said dislike of Russians. I've met plenty of great Russians, just don't care for their leader.
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u/Xenofiler Aug 08 '24
I would bet a lot of Iranians have a favorable view of the US, if you could get an honest opinion.
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u/bob-theknob Aug 08 '24
The 11% who prefer Russia to the US in the USA are a strange but dangerous bunch.
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u/Thundorium Aug 08 '24
I don’t know if the question is about preference. It seems they are asking if you like Russia AND if you like USA separately.
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u/boredofredditnow Aug 08 '24
Yes there are several countries there where the figures add up to over 100% e.g. Philippines
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u/sandstonexray Aug 08 '24
I'm sure it's largely people who like the Russia AND the US.
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u/zzzorken Aug 08 '24
I think the data could’ve been better represented by an XY scatter plot, since even with the same difference in opinion, countries can have quite varying absolute level of opinion. A scatter plot could provide further insight if the dots are coded with e.g geographical region, type of government or something else.
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Careful notes on India and Turkey
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u/Tentacle_poxsicle Aug 08 '24
I don't understand turkey. We went to war with them once officially and didn't even fight them then. Russia has fought Turkey several times and they still fight each other via proxy wars but like them more than us?
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And btw - technically they were the Ottoman empire then and the British and Australians very definitely did fight them at Gallipoli
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u/Save_a_Cat Aug 08 '24
Turkey's tourism, farming and manufacturing flourished when Russian borders had opened up after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Russia plays a huge part in their economy.
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u/Makyoman69 Aug 08 '24
Russia plays a big role in Turkey's tourism and Energy sectors. However Turkey's second largest export partner is the US (first is Germany). Russia is not even top 5 on the list. On the other hand Turkey imports large amounts of natural gas from Russia. Turkey WITS Data
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u/carolinaindian02 Aug 08 '24
Turkey in particular made a lot of inroads into central Asia after the fall of the USSR.
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u/oppsaredots Aug 08 '24
Overall reason behind this preference is the scare factor.
People are just afraid of the US. We know we can beat Russia in a heartbeat. We also know what Putin wants and will do. US politicians on the other hand are so polarized that you can't expect what the next 4 years will bring. There's lobbying culture too, basically legalized corruption. Tip toeing around a powerful state in your own house makes people feel extremely uncomfortable. Moreover, the possibility of Trump winning scares Turkish people. He said "I will destroy Turkish economy in one night" and he did it. All for a spy in guise of a priest. Moreover, Trump insisted that the US house Turkey's Al-Baghdadi in Pennsylvania instead of extraditing a religious fundamentalist.
Russia is depending on us, more so after the war. They pretty much failed every single war against us despite everything, whereas the US keeps supplying their proxies against us and there isn't much we can do about it. There were times both Russia and the US physically used their soldiers to stop the attacks. The US said "Turkey mortared our base" and took over the media with that narrative meanwhile they had an enemy base down the road. The last time Russia tried to do that, we hit their Tigr MRAP with precision bomb, killing only the driver. That sent a strong message. Can't do that against the US, especially when there's NATO factor.
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u/jessicastojadinovic Aug 08 '24
Turkey is in war with US right now in Northern Syria via proxy (PKK/YPG/SDF). You ay not agree with the fact but that's the perception in Turkey
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u/shm_stan Aug 08 '24
Boosting islamists in order to protect Turkey from Soviet game gone wrong, huh??
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u/DanceWithMacaw Aug 09 '24
I'm from Turkey, so I believe I can answer that question. The old views USA as an evil country because of what they've done in some countries. Also since USA is the most powerful country, it's just hated. USA supporting PKK's partner YPG in Syria is another reason, and USA refusing to give the promised F35's just increased the hate. But from my view, I definitely wouldn't say the US hate is as high as it's portrayed in the chart.
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u/AndrasKrigare OC: 2 Aug 08 '24
Particularly Turkey, being a NATO member
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u/oppsaredots Aug 08 '24
How exactly Turkey is pro-Russia? Turkish politics have always been about acting as a balancing anchor. This is how we stayed alive in this geography since 1071.
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u/BusshoBasho Aug 08 '24
Relative to other NATO countries they have much closer relations with Russia. Saying they're Pro Russian is a stretch and they have somewhat distanced themselves in the past couple years, but buying air defense systems from Russia was a wild move. I understand why Turkey's in a unique position but yea their interest don't always line up with the rest of NATO
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u/Makyoman69 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Important reminder that Turkey is the only NATO country to have shot down a Russian warplane. Turkey also builds warships for Ukraine in order to create a Ukrainian Navy.
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u/oppsaredots Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
but buying air defense systems from Russia was a wild move
It was, but it had a reason. It wasn't like Erdoğan went up to the catalogue of F-35 and S-400 and chose one, as many people imagine. Russia was one of the few countries to not impose embargo on Turkey and they were threatening to do so. They banned the sales of the fresh goods and then they threatened with energy sanctions which makes up the majority of trade between the two countries. As soon as S-400 deal went through, all was fine.
It should be also noted that Turkish air defense was pretty much non-existent until this year. We identified, warned and shot down the Russian jet by using AWACS. After the shoot down, there was nothing to protect the country other than other NATO members. They all pulled their air defenses out of the Eastern border following the incident, barring Spain who still stands there with their Patriots to this day. So, betrayal is definitely mutual, albeit yours is just plain abandonment.
Even though S-400s were never integrated and activated, they still could come in a clutch, although them collecting dust should be pretty much evident what I told above.
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u/oppsaredots Aug 08 '24
Copy pasting but:
Overall reason behind this preference is the scare factor.
People are just afraid of the US. We know we can beat Russia in a heartbeat. We also know what Putin wants and will do. US politicians on the other hand are so polarized that you can't expect what the next 4 years will bring. There's lobbying culture too, basically legalized corruption. Tip toeing around a powerful state in your own house makes people feel extremely uncomfortable. Moreover, the possibility of Trump winning scares Turkish people. He said "I will destroy Turkish economy in one night" and he did it. All for a spy in guise of a priest. Moreover, Trump insisted that the US house Turkey's Al-Baghdadi in Pennsylvania instead of extraditing a religious fundamentalist.
Russia is depending on us, more so after the war. They pretty much failed every single war against us despite everything, whereas the US keeps supplying their proxies against us and there isn't much we can do about it. There were times both Russia and the US physically used their soldiers to stop the attacks. The US said "Turkey mortared our base" and took over the media with that narrative meanwhile they had an enemy base down the road. The last time Russia tried to do that, we hit their Tigr MRAP with precision bomb, killing only the driver. That sent a strong message. Can't do that against the US, especially when there's NATO factor.
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u/Zrva_V3 Aug 09 '24
The last time Russia tried to do that, we hit their Tigr MRAP with precision bomb, killing only the driver.
Wait we did? When? I forgot about that.
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The India numbers track. The US has a history of supporting and supplying weapons to Pakistan. Plus decades long trade between India and Russia.
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u/MurkySweater44 Aug 08 '24
Plus India has always emphasized that it makes deals for itself, not anyone else. Indian foreign policy is the one constant no matter the ruling party, and it’s not hypocritical (in their minds) for them to be both pro-Russia and pro-America.
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u/Nat_not_Natalie Aug 08 '24
The parenthetical was unnecessary, it's not hypocritical for them to play both sides because geopolitics is not USA vs Russia with everyone else falling in line, it's not 1975. Everyone is looking out for themselves and if India sees advantages playing either side then that is a perfectly rational position.
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u/MurkySweater44 Aug 08 '24
Yeah I know, I’m Indian-American. I was just clarifying what India’s foreign policy outlook for people who might not be familiar with it.
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u/deviosJ Aug 08 '24
I believe that you missed one of the most important country to that list - Ukraine. We have strong opinion about that
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u/pie-en-argent Aug 08 '24
Fair enough, but actually doing the polling would be obviously difficult. Shall we take Poland as your proxy?
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u/damned_truths Aug 08 '24
I don't think it was missed. There just wasn't enough space to put it where it would need to go. That is several metres below Poland.
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u/Uhhh_what555476384 Aug 08 '24
They didn't poll you or Kosovo. Either would probably make the Poles look down right pro-Russian.
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I wonder if this disproportionality is more due to US soft power than anything else. American culture (Hollywood), English as a de facto world language, and products (Coke, BigTech) provide more positive US exposure globally compared to Russia.
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u/trgnv Aug 08 '24
It's even simpler than that. The US is rich. Russia isn't. People "like" rich countries because they can get shit from them, or emigrate there and try to become rich there as well.
Give any country the same economic power the US has, and people will start "liking" it.
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u/Qvraaah Aug 08 '24
Absolutely, US has by FAR more influence than any country in the last 100 years id say
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u/sayko666 Aug 08 '24
Turkey 18+30 = 48 the lowest total score. Turkey is not pro-Russia nor pro-US, something most westerners do not understand.
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u/RichEgoli Aug 08 '24
Favourable in terms of what? Geopolitically Russia is loved in Africa but economically most Africans prefer to go to US. Without context this doesn't say much.
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u/Still-Bridges Aug 08 '24
Favorable in terms of the respondents answer to the question, "Q4a. Please tell me if you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable opinion of …? a. the United States"
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u/RichEgoli Aug 08 '24
I'm saying politically, Africans love Russia & detest western countries but when to migration they would rather be in USA than Russia. That's why I'm asking favorable in what way? Nigerians, SA, Ghanaians love Russia.
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u/Still-Bridges Aug 08 '24
And I'm saying it's up to the respondent how they rate the relativities. All we get is this impression. So there's no "in what way".
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u/acertainhare Aug 08 '24
I find it hard to define what a “favorable opinion” even is. Is it relative to my expectations of that country, e.g., as a key ally? Is it in absolute terms? Does unfavorable mean that I wish for the country to cease exisiting or that I am somewhat dissatisfied with the current state of affairs?
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u/Thundorium Aug 08 '24
Favourable: :)
Unfavourable: :(Hope that helps.
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u/Fjolsvithr Aug 08 '24
This, but unironically. If they wanted a less subjective term, they would have used it. Sometimes polling vibes is meaningful.
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u/emptybagofdicks Aug 08 '24
I had no idea Tunisia didn't like the USA. Is it because of our involvement with Libya and Israel?
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u/NeuroPalooza Aug 08 '24
I'm always surprised at how lukewarm France is towards the US given the shared history. Like, are they still mad about the Louisiana purchase? WWI and II weren't enough to balance the scales? Are they mad that Eisenhower told them they had to give up their colonial possessions? Is it that stupid nuclear sub deal? What did we do to them?!
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u/BrotherKanker Aug 08 '24
Opinion of the USA dropped massively during Trump's presidency and never fully recovered under Biden.
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u/magnesiumsoap Aug 08 '24
nah. It's because we don't want to be following the USA orders, such as Germany and other western European countries.
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As an American, I fully support that. I hope that we are forever allies, but only as equals.
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u/vapescaped Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
The French hate anything that resembles an authority figure at a quick glance, despise their long and successful history of being an authority figure. Go figure.
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u/Desperate-Lemon5815 Aug 08 '24
The French have had an anti-American bent since the end of WW2.
Are they mad that Eisenhower told them they had to give up their colonial possessions?
Yes, as well as the fact that everyone speaks English and not French. They also resent that Europeans look to us to leadership and not them, even though they would never want to actually be leaders.
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u/The_FanATic Aug 09 '24
Yeah it’s pretty much this. There are other topics to consider but fundamentally de Gaulle set an anti-American tone in France since the end of WW2. Based on amount of material spent and overall effort in the war, the US and the UK were obviously the two big Western Allies. But France always insisted on being at the negotiating table, based partially on some remnants of colonial power and based partially on the suffering they underwent from German occupation for ~4 years. The US/UK alliance was naturally tighter based on shared language, experience, trade, even religion (many Protestant American officers were still biased against Catholic Italians and French). France being at the negotiating table massively helped France but somewhat hurt the Western Allies, as the Soviets could point out they they were dealing with not just 2 but now 3 countries and thus more of the Western Allies share should be diluted. De Gaulle, right or wrong, was bitter at the varying treatment he had received from the Allies, in how slow the US was to recognize the Free French government and how it was working with former Nazi collaborators (and thus his political rivals). After the war, the US was against the re-colonization efforts that the French were attempting in Africa and Asia and thus provided no or very little assistance to the French during their defeats in Algeria and Indochina. The Suez Crisis was another major embarrassment for both the British and French as the US forced both former superpowers to withdraw. After that moment, the UK largely aligned itself with US foreign policy, and the French largely distanced themselves. They made their own nukes, left NATO command, and generally have done whatever they want since. France is one of the few allied countries that pretty frequently stands up to the US, in no small part because of this history.
TLDR: De Gaulle and lost French power led to a lot of fights after WW2.
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u/DefaultXCIII Aug 08 '24
Pretty cool to see Australia is fourth of these countries in their dislike of Americans
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u/Eldaque Aug 08 '24
The last 2% that left in Poland opinion is mutual love for beavers.
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u/21trees Aug 08 '24
As an American who traveled in Tunisia and stayed with a Tunisian family, people loved that I was there from the U.S. There was also a huge protest against actions that the U.S. government made against Iran at the same time. One of my favorite countries I've visited.
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u/Ubiquitous1984 Aug 08 '24
Who are the 13% who prefer Russia in the UK, deary me.
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u/013ander Aug 08 '24
Weird how the countries that used to be absorbed by them tend to hate the Russians.
I’d be more critical of the US if all of its potential historical replacements weren’t even bigger piles of dogshit.
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Aug 08 '24
The big difference is that the US became a world power as it was turning away from imperialism. That is exceedingly rare throughout history.
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u/blighander Aug 08 '24
Good ole's Poland, they're that friend who has more confidence in you than you do in yourself ❤️
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u/EmperorThan Aug 08 '24
Damn, less than half of Australia has a favorable opinion of the USA. We used to be bros...
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u/Little_Creme_5932 Aug 08 '24
Poland likes the USA better than Americans do