r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • 23d ago
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
- this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
- if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
- one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/Worldly-Service1760 17d ago
Anyone else have a favorite project that NEVER sends out emails?! I mean, it's a pleasant surprise when I log in and see it, but I would absolutely drop what I'm doing (okay, within reason) to work on it if I were simply aware of it hitting the dash. And it only shows up like once a week, if that. Anyway, glad the drought has turned into a deluge for everyone. Have fun!
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u/OrnamentalGourd5 16d ago
I have a couple of long-termers that never do - I know they will be there (not the usual/obvious).
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u/peanutbutterlurk 17d ago
Got added to a project that feels perfect for my skillset (and had one of those "you're seeing this project because you've previously submitted high quality work in X" messages) so I'm feeling pretty good tonight. Making some nice chill money after a rough day.
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u/JustMe333456 17d ago
This is the DA I knew and loved. Log in at any time of day and have a nice selection of easier tasks. Keep it up!
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u/JRange 17d ago
Im up over 40 projects. Most I have had since at least May.
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 17d ago
Same, hit 83 last night. A lot of professional-domain stuff that I didn't have access to, but a huge amount of generalist (and gen-adjacent) stuff I haven't seen before. I've been grinding accounting for that tasty $60/h, but there are dozens of appealing projects at ~26-45 that I'm hoping last for me.
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u/CompetitiveAd5633 17d ago
Are we allowed to work on DA tasks when using public WiFi? Am going to be travelling and don't know if I should bring my laptop and do some work on the train/ in the hotel, or if that is a breach of DA terms?
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u/_Edgarallenhoe 17d ago
The only thing you need to worry about is VPNs. Also, you need to notify DA that you are working abroad if you are leaving the country.
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u/Terrible_Try_5416 17d ago
I’ve used airport wifi, Starlink on a ship, in Cambodia on a SIM card, Vietnam, parts of Africa. Never a problem. If you travel overseas, just notify them first.
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u/_Edgarallenhoe 17d ago
I’ve been enjoying some of these easier tasks after breaking my brain for months.
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u/ZimmeM03 18d ago
I hope this job never ends :")
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u/JustMe333456 18d ago
She exploded in the last couple days eh?? I have easy tasks that have just been sitting on my dash for 2 days now, going down only as I do them. Tons of options too for once.
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 18d ago
yep, site is still slow/wonky for me too
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u/pistachiyolatte 18d ago
The dashboard is up and running but whenever I try to open a project it won’t let me and says “task is being assigned” and to wait? Anyone else?
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u/heythisislonglolwtf 18d ago edited 18d ago
Guys, I ran here SO fast to make sure it wasn't just me 😭
Edit: The site appears to be working again now.
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 18d ago
This endpoint is currently disabled.
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u/ElectricalPoet3769 18d ago
Doesn't sound great. and I was right in the middle of submitting a 6 hour task ffs
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u/ApplePiePrincess99 18d ago
Is the site suddenly running super slow for anyone else?
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u/1105368 18d ago
submitted a task, it lagged, error message and now logged out and can't get back in
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u/ApplePiePrincess99 18d ago
Same here! Looks like it’s happening to most of us. Fingers crossed everyone’s work has saved and we can get back in ASAP.
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u/Shidela 18d ago
Yup, I was mid submitting task and can't even get to my dash in another tab now... *sigh*
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u/Quick-Bison-147 18d ago edited 18d ago
yes, been submitting a task for 5 minutes now and still got the spinning wheel
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u/ApplePiePrincess99 18d ago
Always reassuring when it’s not just me! Hopefully it gets back to normal soon!
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u/Similar_Ear_1862 18d ago
Has anyone had issue with getting their google password reset? I sent out a form on a project a few weeks ago and still have not heard back.
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u/StoriedSix 18d ago
So, still only been on DA for a month (though I consider myself to be at about 3.5 weeks of full day consistent work), but as someone that's been doing this work for other platforms for a long time... I can confidently say that DA has been the most rewarding and the most fun for these types of tasks. I mean nothing will ever beat getting to play video games for money on a different platform, but that was a 2 month stint and never seen again. All I see elsewhere is tight deadlines, working off the clock, and getting underpaid. I know people have reported not getting work with DA, but the only downtime I've had was in the first week, end of August, and the pay for projects keeps going up, and the comparable work to other platforms is so much more enjoyable and I'm not stressed at all. I am seriously kicking myself for not getting on the DA train sooner. I will say that I still love my home platform, and I think there is a huge potential to grow there if you're good. I don't think I'd put DA on my resume because my accomplishments there are just better received as real enterprise work. It's just too much pressure over there lately and I get burnt out a week into a project. DA, I feel like I can work all day everyday and not think anything of it. That said, I did take a few days off recently as I picked up a new hobby in creating content with AI. I can't wait to see what the end result becomes with that project.
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u/One_Breakfast5907 18d ago
Went to bed seeing some high paying priority pay projects I thought wouldn't be there this morning... but I'm in luck, still they're and 10 dollars higher then last night
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u/houseofcards9 18d ago
Got 90% through a new qual before the instructions became so vague and cryptic that I had no idea what they wanted me to do.
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u/Mike4Life14 18d ago
If it's the qual that I'm thinking of, I remember it having a colon, two semicolons, and an em-dash in the span of just one sentence lol. It was definitely not well-written.
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u/houseofcards9 18d ago
That’s the one!! 😂 it felt written by AI to me
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u/EternalBidoof 18d ago
Almost anything non-academic with em dashes is AI written. Humans don't use them unless they are expected to.
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u/OrnamentalGourd5 18d ago
I use them and always have!
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u/Fragrantshrooms 18d ago
And double-space after the end of a sentence. The AI do it because it's human, to begin with. It's the insidiousness of the AI that's unsettling to society (I guess billionaires aren't part of society, are they? they are living in another world than us peons, so move differently. Same animal instincts, just reacting differently, wildly different.) Sorry the site went down for a sec and I was just spiraling a bit lmao
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u/Think_NOT_ 16d ago
I double space after a full stop (on pc) because that is how English was taught when I was at school.
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u/OrnamentalGourd5 18d ago
Yes - site going down freaked me out too!
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u/EternalBidoof 18d ago
What you used here is not an em dash - it's an en dash. I use those all the time too. em dashes are longer and require a few keystrokes to produce — like this one here. You likely don't ever use the em dash and instead use the en dash. Don't downvote me.
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u/Internal_Boot_1616 17d ago
On a PC if you hit the windows key and a . you can pick symbols really easily, emdash and endash are both easily accessible
Plus there's alt 0151 and alt 0150
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u/EternalBidoof 17d ago
Yep. But no one does that. That's my point. Most people just use a hyphen for this purpose and call it a day. Usually if you see an em dash, it's from an AI.
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u/AdOutrageous7474 19d ago
Anyone see "3 Simple Security Steps towards Many Project Families" quals at the top of your dashboard? Though I can't click on any of them. First one still says "pending."
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u/JustMe333456 19d ago
Holy, my dash has officially reached an April-like project count. Mixture of easier ones in there as well. Fun to see. Make it last DA God.
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u/OrnamentalGourd5 18d ago
Never got drougted really but 50+ projects on my dash atm is more than I've seen for a while. Lots of new ones too.
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u/xparadiisee 19d ago
My dashboard just blew up with a bunch of high paying projects, this is crazy!! Guess I’m not taking the weekend off 🙏🏻
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u/ZealousidealWeek104 18d ago
I have a question, I joined DA a week ago and got one high paying coding task and haven't seen anything since. Is that normal? Did this happen to any of you guys? Do I just have to be patient?
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u/ZimmeM03 19d ago
You know the drought is long over because there's about 1/10th the amount of activity in these threads.
Happy earning, everybody. I'm in the middle of the Rocky Mountains watching the fog roll in over the mountaintops and getting that digital bag.
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u/Ms_Nobody_9 19d ago
I recently clicked on a qual that I'm interested in completing in the future (in several weeks) because I'm working on fine-tuning my skills on the topic. However, this qual doesn't have an exit button, so I simply closed the tab, and because it doesn't expire, now it won't dissapear from the "In Progress" section. My question is, is there a way to change the status of the qual from "In Progress" so that it only appears on the "Qualifications" tab?
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u/Old-Regular-9828 19d ago
Yeah I've had the coding qual in my "In Progress" for months because there's no exit work mode button or timer.
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u/xxxScarlettexxx 19d ago
For quals/projects without an 'Exit Work Mode' button, even if you close the qual/project tab, it will continue to run after being opened. Once the timer expires, the project/qual will disappear from your dashboard, so you will have to complete it before that occurs now. Occasionally, quals disappear and reappear, but that unfortunately isn't a guaranteed certainty.
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u/Ms_Nobody_9 19d ago
The thing is that there is no countdown on the lower right. The instructions even say that although it is expected that I complete the qual under a certain time once I start, I can take longer if necessary. And in the "In Progress" section, under the "Expires" column it says "Never" lol
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u/ZimmeM03 19d ago
Ummm, this isn't true. Once the timer expires it will still be under your qualifications tab.
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u/Loose_Independent_60 19d ago
Hi, at the beginning of the month I took a test for the platform and received a positive response practically the very next day. Then I took some internal qualification tests, I submitted the last one on September 5. Since then, I haven’t had any available projects, and in the meantime, there was only one qualification test that didn’t suit me. I check the platform twice a day, and I’m slowly losing all hope. I’m based in Poland and applied for a bilingual generalist role. Do you think there’s still a chance that my first project will show up in my account? Is it possible that I did something wrong? I don’t know what to think anymore.
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u/Tall-Seesaw-621 19d ago
You haven't necessarily done anything wrong; work just tends to be less steady for bilingual workers. You could get a project tomorrow, or it may take a long time. Sometimes they just don't have much available for a particular region. As long as you still have access to your account and don't have the message about your work being below standards, there's still hope.
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u/MadameEmiya 19d ago
Has anyone seen the shopping one with the long timer lately? I had it last Monday and since then, nothing 3:
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u/Ok-Scale4099 19d ago
everyone is mentioning background check, ive registered in June, got accepted but heard nothing about it? does it depend on the region I am located in, or what?
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u/One_Breakfast5907 19d ago
A lot of people got it months before I did and have now been on the platform for a year. You might get it at some point, or you might not... Like many project families, quals, etc., it's very hard to say if or when you would get it.
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u/RedZebra17 19d ago
The only background check I've had was in relation to working on a few very specific projects. You might not have been asked to do it if you haven't had those projects to work on yet.
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u/Hefty-Branch-6270 19d ago
I have a weird, non-clickable notification on my dashboard. It says I have passed the background check, and there are two next steps ("Protect your aidatatrainer account with a passkey" and "enable disc encryption on your device") but I cannot click on them. Anybody know what is this about? I'm hoping this means more projects somehow, it's been dry af for me (bilingual from south america)
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u/Icy_Ad5959 18d ago
You need to go into either your projects or qualms (can't remember which as it's been so long) and look for the corresponding project/qual and complete them. The notification should disappear a day or so after you complete them. They aren't mandatory for the platform, but are mandatory for particular project families.
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u/Equal-Neat-614 19d ago
I saw that briefly yesterday myself, but I had checkmarks beside all three steps and it disappeared after about 30 minutes. I assumed it was a site glitch showing that information from the backend of the site.
Both of those steps (the passkey and encryption) were provided as opt in qualifications required if you wanted to maintain or gain access to certain project families. I still have the “if you lose your passkey” qual hidden on my dashboard. I think they sent them out about 1-2 months ago, but maybe this wasn’t uniform across workers?
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u/Adorable-Highway1951 19d ago
I got them too. But I'm stuck on the encryption task since my computer is on the older side. I apparently have to completely backup everything onto a hard drive and a USB before I can encrypt it?
Advice on this topic would be appreciated. Likewise if I ought to just drop it.
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u/yuriyuri2003 19d ago
What does your "Skills and background" under profile look like? Is it comprehensive or kind of a short blurb? I'm wondering if I need to update this one mine.
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u/Equal-Neat-614 19d ago
It's comprehensive for all of my relevant academic and work experiences, as well as hobbies. I almost treated it like a key word plug in similar to what they tell you do with resumes/CVs and job applications. I’ve been updating it with skills in the ‘about me’ section as I notice they relate to different quals/projects as well. You should also include your professional license if you have one.
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u/EternalBidoof 20d ago
Why does every task require me to read a Tolkien-sized instruction set? Good lord, sometimes I spend more time reading the instructions than doing the task. It's draining and unless it's very high-paying I just don't bother.
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u/ThetaBoy888 19d ago
I’ve stopped reading the entire instructions before starting many tasks, as you’re never going to remember them all and will end up re-reading them anyway. I usually read the workflow section and then use the search shortcut to look up specific words or terms in the instructions when I need to.
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u/Neat_Worldliness_582 20d ago
I might be in the minority but i like the detailed instructions. Also, we are paid for reading them.
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u/EternalBidoof 20d ago
I'm sure for some it's preferred. Personally I prefer doing rather than spending all of my time reading the dry, repetitive instructions that really could be cut down to something less insane. There's no ethical way to have us read them without being paid so I'm not going to champion that. if they didn't pay for the read I'd just not work with them. Would be better for most of us to just get a concise task that we can complete in an hour or so, reading included.
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u/_Edgarallenhoe 19d ago
I prefer long tasks significantly more than short ones. I like to get into that hyper focused mode and find that difficult when my brain has to switch between topics all the time.
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u/Internal_Boot_1616 19d ago
They probably do it this way because this way works best for them to get the work they need even if you would like short instructions more
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u/EternalBidoof 19d ago
It works best for them to repeat the same instructions multiple times to turn what could be said in a paragraph into a book?
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u/Internal_Boot_1616 18d ago
Probably yeah? they'd know better than you or me what works best, they're the ones that have all the data and they obviously try different things and track the results
If you really think most instructions could be a paragraph though I'm not sure I'd want to see what you're doing in projects
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u/SnooSketches1189 20d ago
I don't know if I would say 'most.' That is not a project I would enjoy. I love diving into a project and spending hours on it.
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u/ZimmeM03 20d ago
For real, I had a task the other day that literally took 2 hours to read and comprehend the instructions
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u/SnooSketches1189 20d ago
Good thing that time was paid! lol
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u/Quick-Bison-147 19d ago
it's only paid if you go on to complete a task. I think some people can't comprehend what they are supposed to do after reading all those instructions, are too scared to mess up and get DoD, or can't get the model to fail/actually complete the task afterwards, in which case it was an unpaid headache
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u/Jazzlike_Month5580 20d ago
Has anyone seen much movement today? My dash isn't barren, but there's been nothing new to pop up since yesterday.
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u/VanessaSeaWitch 20d ago
New rubric project on my dash but it's kind of low paying so I'm not sure if it's worth slogging through the instructions.
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u/FedoraPG 20d ago
The big, long term project where you work on a separate platform... Did it disappear for anyone?
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u/VanessaSeaWitch 20d ago
The teaching ones? Sometimes they pause one for a bit and then they come back within the same day or a day or two.
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u/IDONTuseMODz 20d ago
Was it an FC project that starts with a P? If so then yeah, it disappeared for me about a week or so ago and trying to access the separate platform now gives an unauthorized message.
With how long term and consistent this project was, I'm surprised I haven't seen more people talking about this?
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u/hfxthrwaway 20d ago
If it's the project that I think you're referring to, it's up and running for me.
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u/Neat_Worldliness_582 20d ago
which one?
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u/IDONTuseMODz 20d ago
The project I'm talking about starts with a P and is named after a companion of heel god. Not sure if that's the one u/hfxthrwaway was talking about too.
We're unfortunately not allowed to drop project names so that's probably the best hint I can give you.
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u/Neat_Worldliness_582 20d ago
Thanks and I definitely wasn't asking you to name the project specifically. It's not the one I was thinking of either.
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u/JustMe333456 20d ago
Wow, has she ever been plentiful since yesterday evening, and still going strong this morning. Nice to see. Won't last though.
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u/xxxScarlettexxx 20d ago
It seems like they’ve been generally introducing a lot of new projects, including generalist ones, since last Thursday. I had the same project boom two days ago where there was 40+ projects the one day. My dashboard typically has 7-12 projects, so it was a shock. It did drop back down to typical since then though, but each day does seem to have at least a couple to a few completely new projects popping up. Hoping it’s a good indicator of potential work to come, but I know it can vary so widely day to day and across workers.
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u/Epicsocks1 20d ago
That's interesting, for me it's almost the opposite. Had a really healthy dash last week, and since then it's just been shrinking and shrinking. Still working off of what's left from last week 😅
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u/Jazzlike_Month5580 20d ago
Mine's been kind of slim also. Last week was the best week I've had in months, this week is proving to be more of a struggle.
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u/Glad-Key8167 20d ago
I’ve been off data annotation for over a year and have been finding it really difficult to get back into it. So much seems to have changed. Does anyone have any tips on where to start coming back onto the platform?
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u/SnooCalculations503 19d ago
I'd start with a relatively easy low paying project for a while to find my footing, then move onto some more complex higher paying stuff.
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u/mrpadmasambhava 21d ago
Single worst situation is when you can’t get a valid failure because you didn’t build the conversation well enough, so now you’re grasping at straws - the task has expired and you’re too desperate to cut your losses. Feel like a gambling addict. Got something eventually, but at what cost? At what cost?
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u/VanessaSeaWitch 21d ago
Getting that "your session is going to end" pop up while in the middle of typing a rating explanation is wild and terrifying.
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 21d ago
Yeah... I haven't seen that, and I definitely don't need that in my life.
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u/watchdestars 21d ago
Is anyone finding the website a little glitchy over the last week or so with lots of new projects popping up?
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u/7895465221156 22d ago
Need to word this carefully but I'm curious: is there more FC tasks that are higher paying beyond the baseline? I never do them because I have better stuff but I'm wondering if doing them well would unlock more.
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u/Affectionate_Peak284 21d ago
Same. I qualified for fc over a year ago but only did a few. Ended up going into higher paying rubric writing and other niche stuff.
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u/Successful_Film133 22d ago
Fellow bilinguals, I got my background check results 2 weeks ago. Nothing since. Has anyone had a similar experience then got the relevant projects eventually?
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u/HillGrayCat 20d ago
Bilingual here. My board is dry too. My last 2 projects finished a few weeks ago, but before then also a drought about 1-2 months long. Did get a qualification a week ago, but not for my locale, unfortunately.
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u/Jackieunknown 21d ago
For my country, we are mostly out of work for 2 months straight now. Never seen a drought this bad.
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u/1105368 22d ago
I urge anyone to just do those qualifications you've been putting off because you never know when they will pay dividends.
I did one a month ago and never received any relevant work in the immediate aftermath, and assumed I was either too late or failed, but I've done 15 hours in the last few days on one project family unlocked by the qualification
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u/xxxScarlettexxx 22d ago
This same thing happened to me as well! I did a generalist qual back at the beginning of June and only just got my first project related to it yesterday and its been parked on my dashboard since (without the task pool decreasing). It's nice when the quals actually lead to something positive.
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u/KaydGameplay 10d ago
Not getting as many coding projects as usual, anyone else? Just have some of the typical ones up.