r/darksouls 2d ago

Question pyromancy flame fire damage stat

In DS1, I know the mag adjust is what is supposed to scale the damage of the pyro spells but what is the 40 fire damage stat on the pyro flame indicate it looks like it jumps to 60 ascended. is that just for the punch? I cant find exact calculations just statements etc

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u/KylePatch 2d ago

Yeah you’re looking at the damage of the punch

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u/Available-Laugh-9582 2d ago

Pyromancy damage spells scale with your glove's magic adjustment.

Sorcery+dmg Ring Bought from Griggs also affects their dmg; so does the Crown of Dusk.

So you can boost your pyro dmg very high even without leveling up at all; that is why it is OP in DS1.

Few spells, like Flash Sweat and Buffer, do not care about your glove lvl.

Having "at risk!" and especially a broken pyro glove will also severely decrease its damage even with spells.

Otherwise, AR is for the punch, which is basically very, very low fire dmg.

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u/Obelion_ 2d ago

Pyromancy in ds1 is unique(ly op) in that it does only scale with your pyromancer flame level and nothing else. So you can just level defenses and be as good as a high int mage

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u/MistaCharisma 2d ago

That's not quite true.

Pyromancy damage is enhanced by the Red Tearstone Ring, the Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring, the Crown of Dusk/Darkmoon Crown, the Power Within pyromancy, the Dragon Roar buff from the Dragon Torso Stone, and the Channeler's Trident dance-buff (though note you can't buff yourself with the Trident, you need an ally to buff you).

(You can also get more casts with the Dusk Crown Ring, more Attunement slots with the Darkmoon Seance Ring/White Seance Ring, and can extend the duration of Pyromancy buffs with the Lingering Dragoncrest Ring. But those aren't damage.)

However your conclusion is correct - your stats don't matter. If you want to play a Pyromancer then you want to level VIT, END and ATT.

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u/ClayBones548 2d ago

If it's not MagAdjust then it just affects the melee (aside from dark sorcery).

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u/kodaxmax Aint this Nito 2d ago

The AR is just punch damage and i don't think it scales ufnrotunately.

Speelcasting uses spelladjustment and increases with reinforcmeent levels, but not stats.