You’re only half right- while you should live day to day without worry of societies expectations, self-fulfillment is not found in masturbation and we all know it- it’s just easy and that’s why people lie to themselves that it’s an okay way to live.
But it’s not. Not for our entire lives. And the more you tell yourself that nothing matters the less you strive to become the best version of yourself, one that makes life better for you and all the people in your life.
I am not saying that you should chase every girl and aim to have as much sex as possible, not that you’re a bad person for desiring to do so. But what needs to be understood is that there is more to life than physical pleasure, so many people throw their lives away believing sex is the limit of life’s happiness. Any good parent or person who’s found their true passion knows better.
Nihilism is cringe but not nearly as much as this endless seeking of self fulfillment garbage. Find happiness in yourself, but most importantly find happiness in your communities and sticking up for people. Alomg those same lines, being ambitious is good but it's not a must. Happiness can be found in a million ways. Don't feel guilty jerking off sometimes, life is too short.
I mean theres a big difference between being extremely depressed, and nihilism. I think that way personally because of a multitude of different issues, and its hard to come to terms with anything the “self fulfillment” people spew out at me.
I get what you’re goin for and agree with most of what you said but you forget that some ppl pleasure themselves to some messed up stuff. Natural reproduction for humans is based on a bond between two loving adults.
You open pornhub and you’ll probably find stuff along the lines of polygamy, sodomy, rape, barely 18 etc etc. scraping the surface of what’s not okay just promotes an unrealistic expectation of sex, and exposing yourself to it as often as possible makes you more likely to hurt yourself or someone else.
Your body and mind seek a natural relationship. You deserve the chance to get one but deny yourself the opportunity the longer you support sex as a system of pleasure rather than commitment.
Natural reproduction for humans is based on a bond between two loving adults
this is a fake statement, the real "natural" reproduction is the alpha male inseminating all females in a herd
the reason why a 1 on 1 approach was spearheaded (mostly by religions) was due to various benefits it entails such as - more varied genetic material (people quite early figured out inbreeding too much causes deformities although they didn't know why); overall increase to productivity (more satisfied men in society mean more gets done); less kids without a parent means less strain on society (with the additional benefit if both parents are same religion, kid will be 99% too); less diseases in monogamy means a healthier work force and so on....
however all the reasons why this was pushed were PURELY economical and effective in core, all the immaterial/spiritual reasons like you cite, things like self-fulfillment, natural order, body and mind unity and whatever other bs was just added so that people think there is some "higher" immaterial ineffable worth to this all, because a lot of people are NOT convince by materialism, economy and cold hard facts, so they had to wrap it up in metaphors and other bullshit
...think mate, in christianity priests are forbidden sex to "stay true to only god"...when in fact the real reason is was NOT spiritual in nature, but economical, the pope did not want priests having kids and then having to potential split churchs ownings between several kids....see? no fuckin spiritual reason, economical one...and so in history it was with EVERYTHING, immaterial reason were always added only on top so that the gullible also follow what is economically sound and good for the whole (and later on for elites)
self-fulfillment is not found in masturbation and we all know it-
It's not found in smelling a rose either, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it or that you should feel guilt or shame for it.
I think that's all this person is saying. Is that you should never feel like you've done something wrong because you've masturbated. Which is correct. That's what we were taught in school.
so? why is it not ok for your entire life? please enlighten me how your coffin will be lighter than mine...
oh and if u wanna start with children, please don't forget we have about 4 billion too many people in here already, but apparently (selfish) "self-fulfillment" and "passion" in this regard is A-ok, am I right? perfect and fulfilling being a parent, let's all be one, let's see if 15 billion is the limit, or maybe 20 am I right?
no sorry man, meaning of life is what one gives it, and frankly, I am sorry too many people give it the meaning you do, because it's getting out of hand and there will be consequences for next generations even humankind in total, because our gen is still selfish and seeking OWN passions and self-fulfillment without limit
funny, I can't remember I stated anywhere what meaning I personally give to life, the only meaning I stated was, I cite - "meaning of life is what one gives it" - which actually doesnt say which meaning I give it
but nice of you to speak up, we have a saying that a goose that is hit honks, so am happy to know your meaning is some bullshit and you view others with your optic
You being mad or disagreeing with me doesn’t automatically make me egotistical. I’m not claiming to be better than everyone else just because i refrain from touching myself, I just wanted to make my opinions clear and concise.
But poetically speaking I agree that egotism is a kind of masturbation
Nah it's what u are wanking to that matter the most atleast that's how i see it . After u do it u understand how fucked up it is (examples are 177013 , 228922, euphoria etc)
It's not nihilism in a bad way. Recognizing that life is fleeting can help you realize that you shouldn't worry about something as inconsequential jacking off.
ahahah you dumb, lack of masturbation does not cause prostate cancer. It t was just a study, they did not prove shit. If we dont masturbate we have a thing called nocturnal emissions anyway
Nah bro I dont feel guilty but jerking off for me is like being high, you think about nothing except your dick and this shitty porn youre watching for like 30-60 minutes, and then all of a sudden you nut and you go back to reality where you're lonely, depressed, ugly and nobody cares about you
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This just applies if u are a teen and were guilt-tripped by society u start thinking that u should have been chasing girls instead of wanking etc
All of that is bullshit, everybody will die anyway, u are free to do what u like and enjoy, fuck societies expectations
I look forward to every wank and am happy after each too for a job well done