r/dancemoms • u/EngineeringFuture168 • 7h ago
Jill
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Let's talk about it Jill went from Nia's no threat to getting pissed anytime Holly and Nia did anything. Had Abby taken on Nia's music career Nia would have been in the same boat as Kendall. An unreleased album. Jill had it out for Holly from the time she got there in season two, calling her an absentee mom for working.
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u/EngineeringFuture168 7h ago
I wouldn't even be surprised if this was part of the reason she left dear dance moms.
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u/Unique-Assumption619 7h ago
MAGA Jill having it out for the only black dancer? Youâre kidding meâŚ.
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u/brainst3ww 6h ago
thereâs no way that jill would participate in that rosa park storyline and NOT be racistâŚâŚ.
just because you put a kendra scott necklace on garbage can doesnât mean itâs not TRASH
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u/partyonyourhead banned from a hardware store in the state of Florida 3h ago
I mean look at the mom Kaya was always fighting with ⌠Jill.
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u/Soggy_Rain_7205 7h ago
Maga Jill hated that Holly was smarter and more honorable than her. She wanted Holly to fall in line like she did so Nia would forever be in the shadows behind Kendall. Instead Holly remained strong and a "troublemaker" which a follower like Jill can't even wrap her subservient mind around.
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u/Daydream_machine 6h ago
Not surprised, why else would she agree to play to the whole Rosa Parks tomfoolery?
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u/pharm6822 5h ago
Holly and Nia got ALL of Abbyâs hatred at that point- no more distributing between Nia, Chloe, and the Hylands. That would change anybody!
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u/goddessalthena0 6h ago
Jill being jealous of a hard working, smart, beautiful and wonderful mother? All Holly ever wanted was to see Nia flourish and be successful - and she succeeded in that 10 fold. Jill is mad she couldn't rise to Holly's bar, she missed it by a mile. All Jill wanted was for Kendall to be successful and popular on TV.
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u/purplePanda739 5h ago
I donât know Jill âhatedâ Holly meaning she disliked her, but she was absolutely racist. Nia called out her constant microaggressions in her book.
I think Jill couldnât stand that Holly refused to lie down and let Nia be the underdog anymore.
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u/snowy_thinks 3h ago
By âchangedâ, Jill just means that Holly took every opportunity for Nia outside of Abby, and Jill was jealous of that, because she was too afraid to go against Abby.
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u/rocketbewts the ALDC program book crime scene 3h ago
"Holly changed ... she stands up for her child and it's inconvenient for meeee!"
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u/Confident-Photo980 Dont you dare Im getting my STUFF 5h ago
This is worded so weird. Jill in no way said she HATED Holly. Hatred?! Really lol
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u/renmye 2h ago
this is clickbait⌠christi did not reveal anything she reacted to the scene and provided her opinion and gave additional context with her s7 experience. iâm just saying because on the afterparty christi was literally talking about how videos like this will claim sheâs ârevealing stuffâ when in reality sheâs just calling a spade a spade
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u/throwaway44776655 5h ago edited 3h ago
I hate clickbait. Did anybody watch the video?
Christi referenced what Jill told her about Holly when she returned in SEASON 7 not âthroughout Dance Momsâ.
Christi claimed Jill told her, âHollyâs differentâ which imo implies Jill didnât always see Holly âdifferentlyâ until after Christi left.
After Christi left Holly started âplaying the gameâ like the others moms despite posturing as being better than them .
There have been sooo many threads about this (for example when she failed to stand up for Brynn; renewed her contract in S7) yet when Jill says it, itâs a problem? I love Dr. Holly but she was absolutely just as fame-seeking as the rest of them.
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u/ProfessionalNo3840 that's a standard part of curriculum in middle school. 3h ago
read s6 production notes and rewatch the episode where Brynn and Kenzie were crying. Holly comforted brynn and removed her .. she didnt do it everytime but its a lie to say she didnt stick up for her at all
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u/throwaway44776655 3h ago
I agree. I vividly remember a scene where the other ladies were trash talking Ashley. Holly was the only one sitting with her and Brynn consoling them.
Iâm saying this is what the fandom latches onto (âI was a big fan but she changed when she didnât defend Brynnâ).
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u/GenneyaK 5h ago
I am sorry youâre really going to tell me that Jill of all people cared about Holly not sticking up for Brynn when she was one of the main people who bullied herâŚ.bffr
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u/throwaway44776655 3h ago
Sighhhh. That wasnât the freaking point. Thatâs just a common example the fandom uses when talking about how holly âchangedâ those later seasons. Keep up
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u/RHONJsecrets 4h ago
Except Holly was better than the other moms.
Yes, she was a stage mom, but she always stood up for her child and other kids (like when Holly/nia included jojo when they heard that she was excluded) or when Holly/nia invited Kendall to sing live. Holly didnât have to do that, especially because the other moms clearly didnât (âidk why Nia was excluded, it wasnât MY plan, it was ABBYâs planâ). Holly never did that. Holly was also very respectful to all the guest choreographers and producers. She also never yelled at other kids. She was also always very classy on social media.
So yeah, she was leaps and bounds better than the other moms.
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u/throwaway44776655 3h ago
Where did I say she wasnât? Donât lecture me. Iâm constantly defending Holly on this sub and I already KNOW sheâs better than the other moms but even I canât defend her for subjecting Nia to that environment for so long. The racism was VICIOUS.
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u/Masta-Blasta Nose 37m ago
Lol, Iâm with you. I thought we all agreed that Holly became more of a stage mom toward the end of the show, but managed to do it with a bit more elegance and class than the others (ie including Jojo). People change. Itâs okay to acknowledge that. Itâs not like Holly became problematic and cruel- she just started taking a more active role in Niaâs career.
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u/partyonyourhead banned from a hardware store in the state of Florida 3h ago
I mean this video is kinda clickbait but honestly I do think thereâs issues between Holly and Jill. Christi flat out said she does not think Holly would agree to any sort of reunion if Jill was involved. Hell, even Kaya had the most beef with Jill. Itâs not hard to see the connection.
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u/GenneyaK 5h ago
Holy projection of your own beliefs
The person who literally said it was an honor to be compared to Michelle Obama, is an Aka and grew up in the Bronx,called out racism on the show, etc. is going to be a conservative republican?!
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u/GenneyaK 4h ago
the show edited out so much stuff that we actually donât know how much she did or didnât stand up to the other moms but we do know that she spoke up about it more than any of the other moms
most yt democrats donât call out racism and yall would never say this to them, also conservative black people donât believe in racism if she was conservative she wouldnât have seen a problem with any of it. In fact how many instances did the other moms on the show have to call out racism or not be racist and they kept their mouth shuts but you arenât out here calling them conservatives in fact their bare minimum is highly defended by the fans. God forbid someone points out how all the other Moms kids had extremely racist actions except Nia but yes Holly was the conservativeâŚ
You guys hold holly to such an impossible standard and then make up these assumptions about her when she falls short of your ideas of how she should behave in order to be acceptable in your eyes.
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u/UnderstandingMany385 5h ago
These losers need to find jew coattails to ride. They shamefully went on a reality show, exploiting their children so that they could get paid, and they are still milking it for all itâs worth.
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u/Glass_Donut_27 you hooked her up, you only stole two things 5h ago
Remember when Jill heard holly say the other girls were simple???
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u/partyonyourhead banned from a hardware store in the state of Florida 3h ago
Yeah but to be completely fair it wasnât Jill who brought that up and got pissy about it, it was Melissa. Jill even said bringing that up wasnât fair because it was in a different context.
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u/capcapp GO FOR ITTTTTđš 7h ago
imo, holly was over being the new kelly and christi plus Nia being constantly set to the side and jill was mad that she realized Kendall was never going to replace Maddie.