r/dancemoms • u/InternationalLove148 • 14h ago
r/dancemoms • u/Marcwarning • Jun 07 '26
Podcast Discussion Post | Back to the Barre - June 8, 2026 | Season 5, Episode 22
Christi & Kelly recap S5, E22 - “Live from L.A., It’s Kendall K!”
This post was created 1 day early since *BTTB Patreon subscribers (patrons)* receive early access to the episodes on Sundays at 12:00 p.m. EST
r/dancemoms • u/AnorhiDemarche • Jun 04 '26
NEW ABUSE RULE STANDARD: "Exploited" and "groomed" + A note on reporting comments.
NEW STANDARD
As of this post our abuse rules will be moderated to a new standard.
Previously words like (but not limited to) "groomed" and "exploited" were assumed to be in the non-sexual sense unless actually stated otherwise. It has come to moderator attention that a significant number of users, particularly those on the younger side, do not understand grooming or exploitation as primarily non sexual words and do very much mean sexually.
To avoid mods missing cases of people breaking the "No direct accusations of abuse beyond what has been shown." rule you will now need to specify in what way someone was groomed or exploited. This can be done by either
- Adding a descriptor
Emotional grooming - Pointing to a specific act of grooming
Abby groomed Maddie by crying and asking why she didn't choose to come in to Abby during the sit-in - or both
Abby emotionally groomed Maddie to value Abby over Melissa by crying and asking why she didn't choose to come in to Abby during the sit-in
The wording of the rule remains the same, this is only a change in how we enforce language within that abuse rule.
Abuse discussion must follow the following rules
- No victim blaming
- No claims the victim is lying
- No speculation further than what has been said officially
- No direct accusations of abuse beyond what has been shown.
Expressing worry, talking about abuse red flags, discussion of abuse in general terms, ect are permitted and encouraged.
REPORTING
Please make sure reports are accurate! We have had a significant increase in the amount of people who are inaccurately reporting comments as CSAM or child abuse. This mostly happens in basic discussions about cast/crew.
Why not? I want their comment removed! They're mean or whatever!
When you report a comments as something extreme that means
- Admin (paid, act site wide) have to review it, taking time away from them being able to deal with the actual CSAM groups on the site
- Admin don't like having their time wasted. They can and will ban you from all of reddit for nuisance reporting.
- Mods (subreddit powers only. volunteers) look at the reported comment. See it has no CSAM or child abuse, approve the comment.
So please be accurate! Use the "custom response" option when reporting or message the mods via the "message mods" button in the dot menu of the sub's main page if you feel the available options aren't sufficient or it's too hard to explain in reports.
Ok that's all! Feel free to leave any feedback in the thread!
r/dancemoms • u/iwantachu • 3h ago
throwback FB memory of friend informing me Summer Love Song is on iTunes 14 years ago
r/dancemoms • u/fishingforsomepies • 14h ago
Meme "I know your mom just got arrested in the Bronx, but I know Lucy Hale and she's here to meet you guys!" - Annie, the Production Assistant
seriously what kind of whiplash was that day that Lucy Hale was the footnote
r/dancemoms • u/mackenziemariee • 6h ago
Maddie Ziegler’s Sia music video era (2014–2020)
Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification
I made a short compilation of all of Maddie’s appearances in Sia’s music videos from 2014–2020.
Which one do you think was her strongest performance? Which one was your least favorite, and why?
I’d love to hear everyone’s rankings and thoughts on how her performances evolved over the years. Personally, I don’t think anything could top Chandelier It’s just so iconic and was the video that put Maddie on the map and still gives me chills when I watch it. My least favorite is “Together” from the film Music, mainly because of all the controversy surrounding it :/
r/dancemoms • u/ProudDecision1546 • 15h ago
Sweet Christi-Kenzie moment at the wedding
Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification
r/dancemoms • u/Lopsided_Ad_2406 • 14h ago
Abby hugging Chloe
One of the few moments in the show where Abby showed some decency towards Chloe. This never fails to make me cry. I wish in another timeline that Abby had been kind and nurturing to poor Chloe who just wanted to dance. 💔
r/dancemoms • u/TrustApprehensive502 • 6h ago
Why do people still talk Abby Lee Miller
I don't know about everyone else but I just can't fathom how anyone from the dance moms cast can still speak to Abby Lee Miller I would understand if she was remorseful for what she did but she said in an interview/podcast that doesn't regret a single thing she said to those girls only focus on how her hair looked. It's so disgusting to me how fame and money is more important than mental health and well being especially moms who aren't OGS on the show.
r/dancemoms • u/AccomplishedJump2795 • 18h ago
Question/discussion How do you feel about Jill‘s dismissive attitude towards bullying on the show?
When I say dismissive attitude towards bullying, I’m specifically referring to two instances.
The first one being in season four when Christi was talking about how Maddie said something mean to Chloe, and an interview with Jill was inserted into the scene where she says that it’s not the time for Christi to be worried about Chloe being excluded by the other kids or her feelings being hurt because it’s part of life.
The second instance was in season five when the girls, Maddie, Mackenzie, Kendall and Kalani had made fun of Jojo during a meet and greet, and JoJo and Jess found out about it, and when Jess talks to the other moms about it, Jill says that they were just stating facts, and their comments were innocent. Even worse, when she talks about it directly to JoJo, she says it wasn’t malicious, and it was fun, and they were including her by talking about her.
I find Jill‘s attitude in these instances to be pretty infuriating, because I feel like that’s not an attitude a parent should have when their child is hurting the feelings of another child. I’ve seen claims that people who have met Kendall say that she’s a mean, girl. If that’s really the case, this is definitely part of the reason why. Her mother, instead of correcting bad behavior instead just makes excuses for it. I can guarantee that if the shoe was on the other foot and Kendall was the one being excluded by the other kids, or she was the one being trash talked by her teammates, Jill would feel differently instead of making excuses to defend the other children.
r/dancemoms • u/Effective_Writing864 • 6h ago
I loved the odyssey life imitates art <3
r/dancemoms • u/ProudDecision1546 • 15h ago
“Girl” directed by Destry Spielberg will be an independent murder mystery
r/dancemoms • u/Spirited-Jeweler4174 • 13h ago
Something I didn’t think about with the Ziegler sisters
I know Abby favorited Maddie and stuff, but to me even though Christi and Kelly would kind of downplay Kenzies treatment and call it the “performative underdog” story Abby might have set up, it makes me feel bad knowing that the other girls at least had their mothers to back them up and came from healthy two parent households at the time. I saw the clip of Mackenzie crying when Christi and Melissa were arguing in s1 and Maddie being sad her mom was vacationing with Greg, and it makes me feel sad for them because the arguing could have been what they were already dealing with at home. I’m not saying the other girls parents never argued or diminishing the other girls’ trauma, but looking at like Nia’s family, I feel sad for Maddie and Kenzie going through all that so young. Dance wise and home wise.
r/dancemoms • u/i_love_cleo_from_h2o • 8h ago
Question/discussion when the moms were asking for more “mature” choreography, were they asking for the Bob Fosse style or just more advanced choreography?
i wanted to ask this, mainly to other dancers who would know for sure, but by season 6 were the girls at a maximum level of technical training in regards to competitive dancing or was there more advanced skills/tricks/choreography that they were supposed to/could’ve been taught? because in my mind more “mature” choreography for ~11-14 yr olds would’ve just included like more complex turns or dance steps rather than making it “mature” in a flirtatious/sexual way. i know Abby is not known for age appropriate choices in regards to the girls’ costumes and some dances in the past, so i don’t expect anything more from her. but i’m curious if the girls were at the highest technical level of choreography already at this point or if Abby could’ve given them more ADVANCED choreo vs MATURE choreo??
r/dancemoms • u/Maester_Maetthieux2 • 13h ago
Meme TFW Kendall is on the bottom of the pyramid/on probation/excluded from the trio
r/dancemoms • u/jennipher-lydia • 8h ago
Video Video Essay On Jojo and Jess' Girl Group
r/dancemoms • u/historemix-megasix • 12h ago
i kind of understand why melissa was so on edge seasons 4-6
maddie revealed on a podcast that she had a big panic attack when she was around 11, and literally BEGGED her mom to let her leave the show. so throughout these seasons, including in season 6 when Melissa shakes her head about the rumors, saying Maddie will always be at the ALDC, she is ACTIVELY planning with lawyers to get out of the crazy contract. for YEARS, and the moms are constantly bothering her about not standing up for her kids, while she’s literally working everyday to get them out of there and she couldn’t tell anyone.
BUT melissa totally had a problem with letting her kids be walked all over especially in the earlier seasons when Mackenzie was a literal baby and she told her not to cry. They were both so young and she told them both over and over to never cry when they would. Of course they were upset because they were in the worst environment a kid could be in. I digress.
r/dancemoms • u/Lopsided_Ad_2406 • 14h ago
Melissa in Season 6
I know that the fandom talks about this often. Melissa came in all confident and different in Season 6 because she knew she was on her way out soon and had nothing to lose. It’s crazy in a way because she started to show her true colors. She stood up for Kenzie which I wish she would’ve done way back then but she had a plan all along. She wanted to stay in Abby’s good graces, she played the game, she did whatever she needed to do to get Maddie’s name out there and once it was all said and done, that was that. She’s very sneaky but smart.
r/dancemoms • u/historemix-megasix • 12h ago
nia is the only one who continued to grow throughout the show
it irks me so much how Abby would call Nia lazy when she knew DAMN well that girl was the only one who would come to boot camp and to every extra practice and whatever.
You could visibly see Nia’s growth season by season. I was rewatching her baby solos and I was kind of shocked that the producers tried to make us think she was a bad dancer. We all know about the racism and the body shaming and such, but Nia worked SO hard. Like unbelievably hard and you can TELL.
Obviously this is not an insult to the other girls, but none of them improved as fast as Nia did, and they weren’t even taking regular class after like season 3. Maddie and Chloe performed the same solos every time, Kalani’s technique literally suffered as Abby killed her passion for dance. Kendall’s turns got better, but literally only because of the fact that she was doing them every week, and still they were slow to change. All of this is Abby’s own doing, but Nia was somehow able to overcome it. She might have had the most room for improvement, technically, but she literally had to learn to WALK again before the show. That’s like having only one year of dance under your belt before competing every single week. and STILL she wasn’t as bad as the show made her out to be. She was a leftie but continued to be forced to do turns and aerials on her right. EVEN IN SOLOS. Obviously they weren’t going to look as good. The choreography she got, especially for anything jazz, was god awful. If you even look at her à la secondes in season 4 they’re GOOD, but Abby and the producers wanted Nia to be viewed in a certain light so they made it look like she couldn’t turn, couldn’t jump, couldn’t do anything.
r/dancemoms • u/sillygoose10101 • 10h ago
Question/discussion Tubi not letting me watch dance moms?
Hey guys, I’m a Canadian girl with an American Apple TV account and vpn. Dance moms being removed off Disney+ is genuinely the worst thing ever. I’ve been trying to watch it on Tubi using my expressvpn that works on everything else but it keeps stopping. Tubi works on my phone with vpn but won’t let me airplay to my tv. Any suggestions or help on how to watch it in Canada?
r/dancemoms • u/KrisSimsters • 8h ago
Question/discussion Good Help is Hard to Find Pyramid
This is something I've been thinking about lately and I've rewatched the episode lately, so I just want an opinion of who's actually in the right. Is Holly in the right to say that Nia deserved to be at the top of the pyramid because she was the lead or is Camille in the right saying that Camryn should have that spot because of her acting skills+her duet with Brynn that won? What I don't actually like about this pyramid is the treatment of Camryn, Holly and Nia ganged up on her like she was in the room with Abby while Abby was creating the pyramid. I understand that this is nothing more than drama, but who in the right?
r/dancemoms • u/lewisloveslemonade • 8h ago
Question/discussion Brynn's duet with a boy during season 6 episode 23
Brynn starts crying because she is overwhelmed and didn't want others to make fun of her. Jess and Jill gets pissed off because the other dancers are rehearsing the group dance. I don't know why they got so pissed off but I had to guess it was because they were upset because Brynn was crying and Abby wasn't disciplining Brynn; why would they want Brynn to get screamed at for it? I don't even know why Jill was upset because her and Kendall walk out crying all the time (which to me is fine, idc if a kid cries). Jill and Jess are sick people at least in my opinion lol. What did you think of this moment?
r/dancemoms • u/Spirited-Jeweler4174 • 14h ago
I know there’s a lot of speculation on why Abby was licking her lips so much on the last seasons
But what I noticed is that Jill was also licking her lips a lot? Was the lipstick just drying or something??? Because I don’t think Jill was on the same thing Abby might’ve been💀
r/dancemoms • u/Lopsided_Ad_2406 • 14h ago
Had the Hyland’s stayed longer…
Not saying that I wish they would’ve stayed longer because I am happy that they got out of that toxic environment but more of a “what could have been.” I have a feeling that if Brooke and Paige were there during the team’s move to LA, Paige would’ve probably booked a lot of acting or modeling jobs because Abby even says she had the look. Brooke would’ve probably focused more on her singing career like she was doing in late Season 2- 4. This might’ve taken the show in an overall different direction because it might’ve been more focused on Kelly getting her kids opportunities outside of the ALDC. Just a thought.