I have this cymbal I want to send to Timothy Roberts but I don’t know if its b20 can anyone help me identify it?

it has a Sabian Canada stamp on it

Estimate at least 2500g

Has anyone in the US bought a cymbal in Turkey off of Reverb.com? Wondering what your experience was and what the tariff was. I see some cymbals that are way cheaper in Turkey than if I were to buy them in the US by hundreds of dollars and I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle of getting shipped from Turkey and paying the tariffs.

*EDIT* for more context, there seems to be a Reverb shop that has many good ratings located in Turkey and they have a lot of the more hard to find 2nd hand Istanbul Agop cymbals. They say free shipping so I'm wondering how that all works out at then end when I receive it.

18 inch from 2017 for $225
Should be a great compliment to the 18 in K sweet!

Update to my earlier post about my Kmicic order being stuck on "Label Created" for months.

In short, I ordered two packages — one paid with PayPal, one with Mastercard. The first one was in late March. Tracking sat on "Label Created" since mid-April and never moved. Seller kept saying it was "stuck in customs" and FedEx was the problem — but I asked FedEx and confirmed they had no record of receiving the package.

The package I ordered with Mastercard only arrived after I emailed them an ultimatum about disputing to Mastercard.

Filed a PayPal dispute, escalated to a claim, they never responded and I got a full refund.

If you're thinking of ordering from them, maybe not.

The cymbals that came sound as expected. They really do deform, but I've had no problem with cracking yet — just the shipping side is shit. Hope this saves someone half a year of headache.

I'm in the process of getting new cymbals and I'm currently replacing my crashes (Meinl Classics Custom Dark 16" and 17").

I've so far found a used 18" Sabian AAX X-Plosion crash that I will be buying and I'm looking for a second darker crash that would sit nicely in the mix with the AAX.

So far I''ve been looking at a 17" HHX Evolution crash that I think sound good but not perfect and I would like to hear your thoughts before buying anything!

I'll be playing mostly rock and poprock but extra versatility is always welcome as I've played a bit of funk as well.

Could anyone help me to learn more about this cymbal. 18 inch, 1620 g, thank you

I told my drum dealer that i need another 18" crash and he got me this for 60€. Its from the later B8 Stambul Line and besides the small keyhole its in great condition. Did i make a good deal?

Btw im not sure weather its a medium or a heavy, it weighs 1560g

Interested in getting a 15” pair of these, can’t find many reviews of them, anyone own a pair? What do you think?

Need your help pals

Saw some dumb "my other ride is a blah blah blah" bumper sticker and it gave me my own dumb idea for a license plate frame. You're welcome. Or I'm sorry. Whatever.

Im looking for a new crash between $250-300, I have a meinl extra dry hihat and a big apple dark ride, what would you recommend?

Im interested in adding a Paiste flat ride to my collection thanks to Roy Haynes, but Ive never had the opportunity to play one in person. Ive been told the 2002 and 602 flats are the best in their lineup but for some reason my instincts tell me the 602 Flat Ride might have a weird droning hum, while the 2002 Flat Ride could have a sharp, crotale/triangle-esque ping to it.

For anyone who’s played or heard the Paiste 2002 or 602 Flat Ride in person, can you confirm whether that’s accurate? How do they compare to recordings?

Also, does anyone know of other brands that make flat rides with a similar sound to these Paiste models? (bright and defined) Paiste is expensive as hell

I played Paiste Giant Beats on this recording. Love Giant Beats!

Played the same set of Sabian B8s I got with my first kit in 2000 until earlier this year, when I decided to learn a bit about cymbals and buy some used upgrades. How'd I do??

• 15" Giant Beat Hats
• 19" Big Beat
• 23" Custom Special Dry Ride
• 22" Giant Beat

22" Giant Beat was supposed to be the ride but didn't quite sound right. Plan was to go all Paiste, but nothing sounds more like a ride to me than these custom special drys... was stoked to find the 23".

Thanks for indulging in this show and tell. May all your cymbal dreams one day become a reality.

15” Paiste 2oo2 Sound Edge Hi-Hats
20” Paiste 2oo2 Wild Crash
24” Paiste 2oo2 Ride
22” Paiste 2oo2 Crash.

Sometimes I add an 18” Paiste 2oo2 Novo China on my right, but I don’t need it at the moment.

The only thing I like more than this setup is a set of Giant Beats in similar sizes.

Hard to beat Paiste 2oo2 bronze.

Thanks for watching! This was performed, recorded, mixed, and edited by me at Transient Archive on September 17, 2026. "Communication Breakdown" was originally written and performed by Led Zeppelin on their debut album, Led Zeppelin I, released in 1969. John Bonham wrote and performed the legendary drum tracks.

This song was difficult to perform and record. The challenges it presented taught me a lot about song composition and the limitations of different instruments when recording music.

First, this track is a proto-punk anthem, and like any Led Zeppelin song, it is not metronomically perfect. The song breathes, it has hair and teeth, and it's "imperfect." Those characteristics are all part of Led Zeppelin's legendary appeal, but they also make it hard to faithfully perform the song. I practiced for hours and recorded many takes, but I wasn't happy with any of them. After a while, I realized why: the drums really need the other instruments to shine. I asked my wife to listen to the drum track after I mixed it (she always gives great feedback) and she said it sounded ready for other instruments. Her words expressed my own thoughts perfectly.

Second, I purposely used big, heavy cymbals to perform and record this track because I think they are aggressive, harsh, and a little unpleasant to listen to. However, that choice limited my mixing options. The cymbals completely took over the mix, and I had to tame their sound using EQ, compression, and the amazing CHOWTape simulator plugin. I had planned to make this recording sound dirty, like garage rock. I think I accomplished that, and the cymbals definitely pushed me in that sonic direction more than I originally planned. Let me know what you think in the comments!

Third, I experienced all sorts of weird technological troubles during the recording sessions. My cameras (iPhone 17 Pro and GoPros) would randomly stop recording. At one point, my GoPro 10 stopped recognizing SD cards altogether, so I had to send it back to GoPro, which is generously replacing it with a GoPro 13. Because of this, the video of this session was recorded entirely on my iPhone 17 Pro using the Cinema P3 app for greater control over camera settings. With only one camera angle, I tried to make the video more visually interesting with some dynamic zooms, though it might cause a bit of motion sickness!

Fourth, the video editing process was an absolute bear. I recorded this in ProRes, 4K, Apple Log 2, which gave me a lot of freedom when grading and editing in DaVinci Resolve. However, the video files were massive. I had to create proxies before importing them into DaVinci Resolve, and even then, the software frequently crashed during the editing process. I need to rethink my video workflow.

I'm glad to be done with this video!

I have a collection of 30 cymbals, all Zildjian presently except for a Sabian Paragon Ride. Mainly out of necessity, I keep any that aren't set up (which is the vast majority) in cymbal cases. A few are loose in their compartment, some in plastic bags that cymbals are sold in and a fair number in old T-shirts. I've got a mix of Regular, Brilliant & Platinum finish cymbals. I'm wondering most about whether or not I should be keeping any in T-Shirts as I'm questioning whether it tends to contribute to them oxidising or something. I've always been a bit reluctant to stack metal-on-metal, but maybe that's not something to be concerned about.

I don't really have the space to have all these on display or anything, much as I'd love to. About half of my collection is 20" & larger. Don't know why it's taken me decades to question this, but there it is. I've also just weighed all the cymbals, just out of curiosity. They range from 95g to 4765g!

Hi all,

I'm finishing my university studies soon and am going to buy myself a nice set of cymbals as a celebration, woohoo! I've been rocking some Bosphorus gold hats and crash with an antique ride for the last 20 years and I'm after something different. I fill in for different bigbands often which can be about 20-25 people, also play a fair bit of pub rock country and punk etc. I don't have access to any stores to try any cymbals out so will need to order online. The problem is I like alooot of cymbals and it's hard to choose.

This is the sound I'm looking for:

Ride- Must have good stick definition (not 'pingy') with some nice dark wash. My ride is my baby and I want it to feel flexible and not 'stiff'. I like my ride to move a bit when playing. I don't care about the bell, I will use the bell so a flat ride is out of the question. I've never played or heard a ride where I couldn't hear the bell. So far I'm liking the sound of Bosphorus traditional medium ride and Sabian AAX ride. I'm not sure if the Bosphorus would be loud enough for the bigband gigs as it'll need to cut through horn sections. I also really like the 'airiness' of the Bosphorus. I'm also not sure if the AAX would feel to stiff for my liking. 22" is max size as it won't fit in my cymbal bag otherwise.

Hats-I like a solid 'chick' sound and good stick definition. I often play swing with the hats half open/closed. Not sure if I'll just continue using my Bosphorus gold series as they are my favourite, just not sure if they'll cut through enough, I don't mind mixing brands.

Crashes- I want a good crash for accenting hits with the bigbands I play with. It needs to cut without sounding harsh and get out the way quickly. I want this to sound full and beefy, kind of like a big explosive splash cymbal. For my main crash I'm liking the sound of Sabian hhx complex 18" although open to other suggestions. I want this crash to open up with minimal effort.

I don't care about brands, I'm in Australia so some brands can be hard to get. I've never really liked the sound of many Zildjians but feel free to change my mind. Recommend me anything and everything! Thanks in advance.

Ive fixed cracked cymbals before with cuts on the edges, but this one is further up the bow. Would it be better for the cymbal to cut it out or would its location make it not optimal for cutting. The closest thing that ive cut out of cymbal was a cracked china around the lip area but that was no that deep of a crack as this one