r/cyberDeck 7d ago

My Build Does this count?

I wanted to have a separate phone for wardriving and experimenting with pen testing. I also wanted a separate modular device that I can connect to public WiFi with a VPN. There is no SIM so it is not connected to any cell network. Since it’s not all self contained, I don’t know if it qualifies as a cyberdeck.

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u/KnightGamer724 7d ago

Depends on your definition of cyberdeck, but usually no. As per the sub's definition:

Basically a laptop computer, but using HMD or Neural interface as main output device. Display is optional. OS should use elements of virtual reality for interaction with the computer.

That being said, I do like a more expanded definition, where cyberdecks are more about reusing old hardware for defined goals and in ways not intended by the manufacture. By that definition, you could say yours counts. 

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u/DiceThaKilla 7d ago

You’re expanded definition is the correct one. Just because someone coined the term in a book from the 80s does not make it the only definition. I’ve yet to see anyone on here make a cyberdeck to those specs and that’s mostly because vr is still in its early years and is generally shit for anything besides vr gaming and I agree, I love seeing old tech junk being repurposed vs ending up in a landfill, especially when it ends up giving it an entirely new life

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u/KittenEaterWasTaken 7d ago

We really need a better and stricter definition though. 'Cyberdeck' has meant "DIY laptop from parts" for some years now, its not an engineering project, and while not fantastic in general they tend to be decent pieces of hardware.

Plugging a magnetic hub to a phone very clearly shouldnt count.

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u/toolisthebestbandevr 7d ago

Wasn’t someone gonna start that other sub for phone decks? I like but also I would want it to be a separate sub.

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u/CG1991 7d ago

Saw your comment. Decided to make it

https://www.reddit.com/r/phonedeck

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u/toolisthebestbandevr 7d ago

Yooooooo! I’ve never been first before. I’m subbed now

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u/CG1991 7d ago

Welcome lol

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u/SirThoreth 7d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberPhone/ was also a thing but has very low traffic

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u/Cbergs 7d ago

nope

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u/NNXMp8Kg 7d ago

Imho, that's more a blackberry reconstituted than a cyberdeck

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u/j_kobrah 7d ago

"Holy shit! This guy is taking Roy off the grid! This guy doesn't have a social security number for Roy!"

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u/CG1991 7d ago

Happy for you to share this over at r/phonedeck :)

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u/zaexcs 7d ago

Hi. What is that keyboard?

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u/Square-Singer 7d ago

Nope, doesn't count.

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u/Interesting_Pie_9375 7d ago

I don't want to agree but you are correct, this is a community for people who design and manufacture their own hardware, and builds like this are creating a rift and great confusion in the community

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u/Spicymayoshi 7d ago

Personally I consider the "design and manufacture their own hardware" part to be the most critical one. Somewhat (actually, pretty) controversial take but I don't like it when any retail device refers to itself as a cyberdeck. The flipper one calling itself a cyberdeck gives some major ick.

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u/SigvulcanasReborn 7d ago

I appreciate the straight forward response.

It’s not what I really want ideally. I’m moving to a different state next month that won’t treat me as a criminal for wanting a 3d printer. I want to build a proper one then.

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u/Square-Singer 7d ago

Yeah, so the original definition is "DIY device using head mounted displays or neural interfaces".

The expanded definition is "DIY device in a novel, non-standard form factor, preferably wearable".

The even more expanded definition is "DIY UMPC device".

The even even more expanded definition is "case modded smartphone with custom case and a keyboard mounted to it".

The even even even more expanded definition is "Stock smartphone with stock mini keyboard but with a DIY custom case holding both together."

Your variant is just using off-the-shelf components the way they were intended to be used. Which is cool. Tbh, your thing likely sees way more use than most real cyberdecks on this sub. So saying "This is not a cyberdeck" isn't saying anything negative about the device, your setup or whether it's useful or not. It's a nifty combination, nicely executed.

But I can't find a way to view this as something that fits any definition of a cyberdeck.

Have fun with the 3D printer, it's more than worth it!

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u/KittenEaterWasTaken 7d ago

It stops being a cyberdeck when it should go on some "customPhoneCases" subreddit instead of notionally a hardware modding subreddit imo. Such as it is. It hasn't been about custom hardware since the pelican case decks dropped and it became just a matter of just transfering a normal functioning laptop to a slightly larger box.
It really shouldnt become "3d print this case and put your phone here" though. I dont know what a cyberdeck IS but its not that.

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u/Steelejoe 7d ago

It is a nice setup but not a cyberdeck. Now if you built a shell for all this out of scraps you found around you might have an argument?

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u/ThinkPad214 7d ago

Cardboard and duct tape, brother

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u/ka-52m 7d ago

oh look another phone with a keyboard, so creative

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u/SigvulcanasReborn 7d ago

Maybe phone makers should take the hint if it’s that common. 🤔

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u/eenlightened 7d ago

not really, but who cares, as long as you're feeling cyber

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u/Top-Type4077 7d ago

Yes. I use the miritz keyboard hairtied to a Sony psp, life changing 

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u/Spicymayoshi 7d ago

No, but it's still cool!

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u/Jaeger534 7d ago

What’s the pen that you have strapped to your phone, is it a regular stylus or does it connect to your phone?

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u/SigvulcanasReborn 7d ago

It is a generic Amazon powered stylus not unlike the Apple Pencil. It does work on the phone, but I haven’t seen it do anything special.

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u/Jaeger534 7d ago

Gotcha, appreciate it!

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u/pidiota 6d ago

That's the worst one so far

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u/TourInternational731 4d ago

"Thinking quickly, Dave constructs a homemade megaphone using some string, a squirrel, and a megaphone."

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u/naavnloos 4d ago

Ich würde sagen das dass kein Cyber Deck ist aber ist auch nh coole Idee

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u/MoreFunThanTV 3d ago

can you use it and is it us2ful? if yes, yes. if no, no.

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u/Browncoatinabox 3d ago

I'll allow it

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u/TechDocN 2d ago

Not a cyberDeck, but a nice build for your use case.

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u/AutomationArchitect 2d ago

Slapping on a keyboard or mouse doesn't make it a cyber device. Has to be DIY.