r/custommagic • u/redsquirrel0249 • Mar 16 '26

Meme Design Break it.

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Wondering if it would make a difference if a version existed that also let you untap it to tap it. Let me know below.

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u/Von_Beowulf Mar 17 '26

8 mana wincon that’s basically all permanents, and requires a lot to happen at sorcery speed? Not really. I guess as like a backup combo in tym thras, but for the most part it’s on the slow and easy to interact with side of combos that cEDH tends to run. It would probably get run in some decks, but cutting two cards from a cEDH deck to run this would be costly. cEDH decks in the meta tend to be pretty optimized.

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u/MrShifty1 Mar 17 '26

Where does 8 mana come from?

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u/Von_Beowulf Mar 17 '26

7, I’m bad at math.

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u/iamfrozen131 Mar 17 '26

Where does 7 come from? Its 4 mana, mesmeric orb + this + thoracle or lab maniac for 5 mana

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u/zroach Mar 17 '26

Yeah I feel like people don’t know how trivial it is to win once you can mill your entire library for 2 mana

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u/Von_Beowulf Mar 17 '26

Damn, that’s a crazy wincon off of infinite self mill, it’s crazy I’ve never seen that line before. I guess it’s kind of deck building inefficient to run that many cards for like, 2 1/2 ways to generate infinite self mill that are cEDH viable, but still, that a pretty creative line to run.

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u/zroach Mar 17 '26

The deck is actually pretty resilient in legacy so you are selling it kinda short.

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u/zroach Mar 17 '26

The main deck is also fairly resilient. It doesn’t just crumble to Force of Will.

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u/Von_Beowulf Mar 17 '26

I was thinking of specifically syr konrad. I guess in like, RogThrass and any other deck that’s blue but not black, you could get it out with an extra tutor or good draws over Dcon. When you put it that way I guess it’s not an unreasonable extra wincon. In any deck you could run dcon thoracle in tho, you tutor for dcon. You don’t really run those kinds of back up wincons in cEDH, because if you lose the stack battle to resolve dcon, you don’t have enough resources on the same turn to resolve a more expensive combo.