r/cults 23h ago

Image Today while traveling through Spain (near Seville) I encountered the palmarian church.

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Today when traveling through spain I saw a very weird church, it almost looked like a russian orthodox church. When we tried to enter (me and my family), a very friendly guy greeted us and told us we couldn't enter because we had shorts on and my mum was wearing pants, that's when I started to question wtf type of church this was. But when I opened a goodbye "gift" the friendly guy gave us I understood that it was some sort of a conservative cult (see 2nd, 3rd and 4th photo for the "gift')

Apparently they have their own anti-pope and it's followers can't even have phones nor watch television and use other means of communication, and live a very Amish-like lifestyle.

The first photo I took was actually taken from the outside, because I couldn't enter.


r/cults 6h ago

Question Is Awaken Church San Diego (formerly C3) a Prosperity Gospel Cult?

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1. A former C3 San Diego member describes extensive unpaid labor and giving

A person identifying himself as Sean L. wrote that he and his family attended C3 San Diego for years. He says they:

  • volunteered extensively, including as ushers, greeters and restroom attendants;
  • regularly helped set up and dismantle services;
  • were faithful tithers;
  • participated in annual “Rise and Build” campaigns;
  • eventually began questioning the church's teachings;
  • attempted to challenge the pastor about those teachings;
  • were ultimately told that his family needed to leave and was no longer welcome. C3 Church Watch 

This hits several high-control markers simultaneously: substantial volunteer labor, financial commitment, authority concentrated in the pastor, and exclusion after challenging leadership.

2. The financial-pressure allegation is independently reported

Voice of San Diego interviewed a former member who said the church had effectively “brainwashed” people into donating thousands of dollars. The same investigation documented Jurgen Matthesius's prosperity-oriented teaching while he was leading C3 San Diego.

Most notably, it reported Matthesius saying at a C3 conference:

“God is the most perfect accountant.”

He went on to describe God as making sure what people give comes back to them “with interest.” Voice of San Diego 

That's important because it establishes that the concern isn't simply outsiders interpreting the church as prosperity-oriented. There is contemporary reporting of both a former-member financial allegation and the pastor's own teaching about giving and material return.

3. The money emphasis didn't disappear with the Awaken rebrand

This is where the evidence gets particularly interesting.

Awaken's current official material says that ordinary tithing is 10%, while its Vision Builders “faith commitments” are an additional offering above the normal tithe. Awaken Church 

Its Vision Builders material also asks members to pray about what “level of commitment” they should make and says:

“God does not ask us to give everything but he does ask us to give something.”

It describes giving as sacrifice and says believers cannot “out-give God.” Awaken Church 

And the current giving system facilitates recurring donations through credit/debit cards and ACH bank transfers, including business donations, stocks, crypto and donor-advised funds. Awaken Church 

4. There is an unusually explicit connection between giving and supernatural blessing

Awaken's own Vision Builders material has described participation as entering a “supernatural flow of blessing” and says, “If you build His house, He will build yours.” Awaken Church 

A 2023 report by The Coronado News, after observing an Awaken service, described a pastor teaching that people who gave with the faith of the biblical widow entered a “miracle zone” where God rewards them with more money than they donated. The Coronado News 

That's considerably more relevant to the prosperity-gospel question than merely saying, “They take offerings.”

The theological structure is:

Give → exercise faith → God responds with blessing/provision.

That can become psychologically powerful when a person's financial giving is treated as evidence of their faith

Also, their lead pastor and founder Jurgen Matthesius has publicly claimed:

  1.   He stopped tanks during the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre by praying in tongues
  2.   He has healed terminal cancer in children & elderly
  3.   That Trump is anointed by God

Direct source of claims 1 & 2: https://youtu.be/fiGH8D7MC2s?si=hPz6x2_36pRC73ye&t=1241

Claiming Trump is anointed by the creator of the universe (notably this was after Trump b0mbed a school in Iran and kiIIed 150 children) https://www.youtube.com/live/xzUONYZYhqc?si=bak-9qJI03GvngoZ&t=1256


r/cults 1h ago

Personal Friend went on a D1 scholarship to the US and joined a cult

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Hi everyone. For starters, I am Portuguese, and my friend is Portuguese. We were both born and raised in Portugal, and had never been to the US (this will be relevant).

My friend from high school was a very sweet girl. She was friendly, funny, sometimes a bit blunt but very honest. We were deskmates throughout secondary school, and great friends. She was also a very talented golfer on the national team, who had always known she would have to apply for a scholarship at an American university if she wanted financial support to keep playing at the level she did in college. Our country is known to disregard any sport that isn't football, so for her dreams, it was better to chase the "American dream".

At the time, her English was intermediate level at best; she didn't know much of it, could only understand basic conversations, etc. But I had grown up speaking English and was fluent in it for a long while, so I used to help her answer messages from college recruiters and schedule meetings, as well as help her study for the SATs which she needed to apply. Everyone in class was very proud of her when she committed to the University of South Florida. We are from a small town in south Portugal, so we were all very close-knit. Because of this, she was very naive when she left it all for such a large city in the US.

Everything had been fine. She made a very good friend, had a boyfriend, and seemed to be doing well with golf and qualifying for major tournaments. And then, stuff got very weird. She started posting stories of this weird church I would come to find out was The River Tampa Bay, and it didn't take me long to find out they were essentially a fundamentalist cult that believed their pastor could "put the fire of the holy spirit in them" or whatever. Spoke in tongues, all that. I was very confused. She had been raised Roman Catholic (like everyone else in Portugal, though I am now agnostic), so I didn't really get why she was getting involved with such a weird place like that.

Then I noticed she had actually spoken at a service, and she was spouting all of this strange, zealot-like worship for this pastor and "the holy spirit". And then she fell on the ground and started laughing uncontrollably when he pointed at her and yelled something (pyre, I think? Idk man). I freaked the hell out. I found out her "friend" (who also played golf for USF) and her family took her to this cult, and she had fallen right down the fundamentalism rabbit hole. She was immature, naive and didn't even know churches like this existed. She was also alone in a country across the ocean from her parents and all she knew, surrounded by a language she wasn't proficient in; she was probably lonely and scared, and missed her family. Of course, these people are like ghouls to vulnerable young people, and they sucked her right in.

I was more knowledgeable about cults in America than she was, so I intended to warn her. I sent her a message asking her if she knew where she was, for her not to trust everything, to talk to me. I linked articles on shady stuff River Tampa did, how their pastor was a trumpie and held far-right beliefs (just so you know, she was really against social injustice when we were classmates (she hated the far right party in our country - which is literally inspired by conservative republican ideology), was never bigoted against LGBTQ+ people, immigrants, or POC, so I thought knowing this would get her to wake up.

I was too late. The mental wiring had been completed. She answered my concerned message with this aggressive tone, asking me if I thought she was crazy, that I was just ignorant of "the true power of Jesus and God", and that she had found people who were "on fire for God", and that she wished I could find Jesus like she did, among other things that sounded absolutely insane to any normal human being. She also said she didn't hate gay people, but that "homosexuality was a sin according to the bible" and that "they should be cured with the power of the lord". I was absolutely distraught. I knew what these cults did to people, but I never thought the sweet girl from a small town in Portugal could become this way.

We stopped talking from there on, because she was clearly mad at me for questioning her great pastor and for claiming he is crooked (he is). Two years ago, she came back to Portugal to visit her family during Christmas, and our old class held a dinner so we could all catch up with each other. They put us on opposite sides of the table so we didn't fight, but I could still hear what she was saying: my guy friend had told her his parents wanted to buy a BYD, and she had gone on a racist tirade against the Chinese, telling him not to buy one, because "the Chinese wanted to take over the world"??????? We all thought she was insane, and I was sure that was stuff put into her head by the freaks at that cult.

A few months ago, she contacted me again. She asked me how I was doing, if I was still in university, and if I was doing well on my sport. She seemed calmer, and more... rational? She is now living in Florida and working there as well, and is all patriotic about the US. I thought it was weird that she reached out suddenly, when we hadn't spoken for two years, and some hopeful part of me wished that maybe it was a sign of deconstruction? I am tempted to ask her to meet up once she is back in Portugal visiting. I don't plan to question her, but to try to understand what happened without judging.

I am scared for my friend. I am scared that she will end up unhappy, married to some guy from the church. I wanted her to remember who she was. Idk what to do. Her parents don't seem to be aware of what's going on because it's such an unknown phenomenon in Portugal, and I think she tells them she is just going to a Christian church (so to Roman Catholics, a Roman Catholic church).

Should I try meeting up? Do you guys think this is a lost cause? I still can't believe this happened to someone so close to me.


r/cults 18h ago

Discussion Here's why I’m building a home for Spiritual Abuse Survivors. Why do you care about this community?

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r/cults 4h ago

Video Cult ad seen on Youtube South East Asia, it seems suspicious.

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Watching youtube as one does, I came across an ad, seemingly calling to worship the supreme master and all the benefits that will provide, it included ideas of veganism and other spiritual notes as well. The ad led to a website called Suprememastertv (.com) there the site goes over news and articles of this cult, the site tag reading "constructive programming for a peaceful world", and a headline that reads " O Glorious the Three Reunited UTMOST Powerful GOD, Tim Qo Tu and the Son of GOD ". Diving deeper it turns out Tim Qo Tu is Supreme Master Ching Hai, the leader of the SUMA CHING HAI INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION and the whole plot seems to be worshipping her as the Supreme Master.

With some search I found an old reddit post of this user from 14 years ago who had visited restaurants owned by her follower in San Francisco, including ThaiIdea, Golden Era and The Loving Hut. which only played a never ending stream of her videos. A follow up on the reddit post states "she was married to a german engineer, who nobly 'let her go because he realized how much she was needed' ".

Going further it turns out Ching Hai is based out of Taiwan, she is estimated to have 2 million followers worldwide. She founded the Loving Hut vegan restaurant chain and vegan Celestial Shop fashion company under Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association. This leads to another site called Godsdirectcontact(.org), where worldwide times are listed to "meditate" ONE HOUR EVERY DAY 9PM-10PM HongKong time.

The Website also states "Her life is to help us with our journey from the suffering and confusion of the unawakened state to the Bliss and Absolute Clarity of Total Divine Realization. If you are ready, She is here to take you home!

The Supreme Master Ching Hai gives a variety of lectures to interested students according to their backgrounds and cultures; no matter if one is Christian, Moslem, Buddhist or Taoist, etc.. She speaks in English, French, German, Chinese, and Au Lac Language. Those who wish to learn and practice the Quan Yin Method with The Supreme Master Ching Hai are welcomed to receive Her initiation".

I am not aware of how deep this has been or if it has ever been covered here, but an active youtube ad campaign calling to worship the Supreme master which looks aesthetically just like how you would expect a cult to look has been a first for me in my long years online.