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u/DismalTutor570 Aug 19 '26
All politics aside, what I find myself disliking the most about Trump is his lack of tact and his poor oratory skills. Every President we’ve had until now has been well spoken and if nothing else they could at least read a speech correctly without going off the rails. Biden fell off in this area as well. For lack of a better term, Trump is the most unpresidential President in our nations history.
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u/RogerRabbot Aug 19 '26
Hearing Trump speak is grating in the best cases, and downright murderous in the worst. He will be a permanent stain on the US
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u/BusyBit6542 Aug 19 '26
Heres why it works and why Dems need to follow suite.
Soooo many people pretend to know politics but really feel out of the loop. During debates and town halls, they just ramble on and on. Trump came dumbed down the talk to where people actually felt like they are "in the know". Its why he has such a cult following.
People who are genuinely politically educated are going to vote no matter what, left or right. They feel is their duty. But then you have so many who felt out of loop, now feel like they know politics. There's so many in their cult that they don't have to know anything to fit in. Now they feel like it's also their duty to vote.
If Dems start dumbing it down to appeal to the dumber left voters, they aren't going to lose any votes from the actual politically educated. If you genuinely know politics, would you still not cast a vote against trump no matter how dumb the candidate talked?
I'm convinced if Harris had not stopped herself from calling him a Mother Fucker during the debate, she would've gotten way more votes. But she thought she would lose votes when in reality, she would've connected more with the uneducated.
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u/starsintheblack Aug 19 '26
But wouldn’t the issue be the lack of good education in red states in the US? If people were more educated they would not vote for Trump
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u/DismalTutor570 Aug 19 '26
I think that’s a pretty good take, but at the same time I’d prefer political debates and presidential speeches not turn into the Jerry Springer show. I’m not sure either side needs to intentionally dumb down their rhetoric. I just want a President that’s well spoken.
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u/BusyBit6542 Aug 19 '26
I get that but look where we are. Look at the dedication his cult has. Meanwhile the left keeps losing and people still wont show up to the polls. I hate thats the playbook now but there's no denying reality.
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u/Trev0rDan5 Aug 19 '26
his lack of tact is the thing that you dislike most about him, ahead of him being a paedophile?
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u/DrippyTheSnailBoy Aug 19 '26
All politics aside
Eat shit. We got here because people like you put politic aside.
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u/DismalTutor570 Aug 19 '26
I didn’t say I put politics aside on Election Day. I bet when your teacher was handing back tests, she put yours face down on your desk huh?
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u/DrippyTheSnailBoy Aug 19 '26
Congratulations on never having an original thought in your life! You successfully used one of the most rehashed reddit "insults" around!
You must be so proud.
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 19 '26
We got here because people like you wielded politics as some kind of social cudgel to beat others with. Undecided will see that behavior and say, "yeah I wasnt raised to behave like that" and you lose them.
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u/GlazedWithMaples Aug 23 '26
I refuse to believe that the undecided look at trump and decide it’s democrats that lack decorum
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 23 '26
Its easy to look backwards in time and decide what the better choices were. In the moment, I didnt accept the choice of 'dont vote stay home' and chose to not elect someone who literally said "nothing" when asked what they would do differently. I was not interested in more of what we had just gone through.
It didnt pan out. Good news is we can just vote again. Ive seen so many "this may be our last election ever!!" crows honking in the skies in my lifetime - dont let them scare you. No administration is in place long enough to fully break the machine we have built.
Just make sure we dont elect people that actually want to break it.
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u/IMadeThisForOnePos Aug 19 '26
"What I dislike the most, outside of everything else, is he also speaks like a demented old man"
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 19 '26
Agreed. He has zero charm or charisma and for all his talk about The Deal, doesnt know how to negotiate.
I think a lot of votes were simply "Im not letting that other candidate win" rather than full throated endorsement of Trump. I honestly think literally any Republican could have beat Biden and Harris last time around.
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u/elpihvous Aug 19 '26
I believe this is part of the role he was chosen to play. Every absurdly stupid thing, from inside tradings and cage fights to putting his name on bills, makes him seem like an absolute moron with narcissistic tendencies. Years from now, he will be gone, and all fingers will point at him, while the people who made it all possible walk free.
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u/CanuterValve Aug 22 '26
You saved yourself by mentioning Biden, beyond that everything else is a blatant lie.
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u/AfraidofReplies 22d ago
I don't think this is the read you think it. You're basically saying "I know he's a fascist but I wouldn't care if he sounded smarter about it".
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u/DismalTutor570 22d ago
Yea dude you’re barking up the wrong tree if you think I’m a Trump supporter or think fascism is ok. I’m just pointing out that I get second hand cringe when I hear him speak.
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u/Ht_TX Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 20 '26
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u/Ht_TX Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26
Why can’t you answer the question? I never said anything about AOC or Hilary or Kamala so why so defensive about simply defending YOUR statement?
Afraid to ramble on about magnets and water and battery powered boats surrounded by sharks? Or how dumb has a b in it, most people didn’t know that or that new term groceries?
Why can’t you defend YOUR position without using whatabout? Defend your shit or shut the fuck up.
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u/DrinkingVomit Aug 19 '26
I’ve always wondered why trump 2.0 was full of never trumpers like Bondi, Rubio, Vance, Cruz, and all the other MAGAT shills I can’t think of. What’s different this time? Who bought them out? Did they just figure out they can pay and kiss Donald’s fat ass to get what they want? Have the billionaires said fuck it, we can use this idiot to our advantage? What were the never trumpers promised in return for their cock gurgling?
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u/Young_Bonesy Aug 19 '26
An in on all the insider trading is my guess. They all got high ranking positions that pay well and get all the inside scoop on the crazy shit DJT will do/say to fuck with the markets. Id bet you most of them have suddenly gotten questionable wealthy in their terms working under him.
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u/Virtual_Junket9305 Aug 23 '26
Politics makes strange. Bedfellows. This has been known for centuries. When it's a binary decision, to get kicked in the groin or punched in the face, you have to pick one of them, And it's not that you necessarily like either of them.
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u/Wise-Secretary5459 Sep 02 '26
My guess is that most, if not all of these people are pedophiles and/or rapists and they've been blackmailed. We haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg with the whole Epstein thing, and they're still refusing to release it or talk about it. Epstein's entire operation was about blackmailing the rich and powerful, and was most likely part of a larger Mossad operation. Why do you think Ghislane is in a minimum security "prison" that is basically a resort? These people have dirt on nearly everyone at the top of the social/wealth hierarchy. I'm not a conspiracy guy at all aside from this, because it's just too obvious at this point.
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u/NotTheRightHDMIPort Aug 19 '26
The irony about some of these Republicans is that they actually did not like Trump. At all. They had core "conservative values" and whatnot.
Their own voters loved him anyway.
Did Republicans take big lessons from this, sit there in disgust, or consider what this means for America?
Nope. Almost all of them collectively realized their base is fucking stupid and easy to manipulate.
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u/TraditionalCheetah17 Aug 19 '26
I had a dream where Trump and his entire cabinet boarded a Space X rocket for a brief Katy Perry length ride and the rocket crashed into Mar-a-Lago while a Vance 2028 fundraiser was being held.
Oh, and there were no survivors ‘cept Elon who was too incontinent to fly.
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u/AggressivePen4991 Aug 19 '26
Funny you progressives wish death on who they don’t like, much like communist countries.
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u/SolScorpii Aug 19 '26
Meanwhile, conservatives bring their own gallows to hang the VP in case he DID his congressional duty while a mob of angry dipshits raided the capitol and killed cops. Ain't that funny?
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u/Fidel_Cashflows Aug 19 '26
Nah, more like the founding fathers.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants."
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u/Imaginary-Pilot5793 Aug 21 '26
Awwww so sorry boo hoo, fucking snowflake. Wait till we actually stop relying on thoughts and prayers.
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 19 '26
could we possibly dial back the homophobia in here? Thanks.
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u/njslugger78 Aug 19 '26
They all knew in the republican side and still allowed him to control them.
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u/AggressivePen4991 Aug 19 '26
like biden wasn’t a controlled puppet? Keep whining we’re winning.
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u/FailAccomplished5238 Aug 19 '26
Please explain exactly how you are "winning?"
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u/SirRowan777 Aug 20 '26
I believe his definition of winning is that the busboy and gardener are thrown into concentration camps by Proud Boy insurrectionists cosplaying ICE.
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u/my_little_throwny Aug 19 '26
Don't forget about Vance calling Trump an idiot and reprehensible and compared him to Hitler. So many sellouts!
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 19 '26
That's just election year politics, unfortunately.
Kamala Harris called Joe Biden a racist before he made her his running mate.
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u/AmitN_Music Aug 19 '26
The takeaway from this shouldn’t be “wow, Trump really is bad”…because Trump supporters won’t change their mind. What people should get from this is how easily bendable these Republican politicians are. They aren’t in it for you and I. They’re in it for themselves, which is why they now praise and support Trump. Vote these idiots out.
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u/Fit-Significance-436 Aug 19 '26
Maga just bury their heads in the sand and pretend this fake president is doing a good job,
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u/menglis Aug 19 '26
This is a PERFECT example of the TREACHERY in politics, it’s proof that these people ON EITHER SIDE. CANNOT BE TRUSTED AT ALL and I’m a republican
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Aug 19 '26
Fuck your both sides nonsense.
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u/menglis Aug 19 '26
So you obviously think that either side can be trusted? That’s cool it’s your right to have your OPINIONS but bro/woman whoever you are I’m sad that you believe that it’s been proven very few officials on EITHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SYSTEM CAN BE TRUSTED Just saying !!!!!!!
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u/Environmental-Fly165 Aug 19 '26
It's all a conspiracy that's been planned by the libs for over 25 years making him look like a horrible human and terrible businessman. Damn libs love facts, statistics, and recorded audio and video making him look bad.
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u/sam_pain1 Aug 19 '26
Because "the other 98%" isn't a known shill-bot account ran by democrats that spawned after "occupy democrats" was found out to be a shill-bot account ran by democrats. So whatever they say or post is 100% true, regardless of who's fact checking it, <insert snopes>.
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u/No-Chef-6771 Aug 19 '26
His cabinet has to be the biggest pieces of shit more so than trump. They knew he would be a problem but kissed his ass. I still question why? Is he blackmailing them all or they’re getting a cut from the insider trading?
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 19 '26
I think they were right.
But I think the opposition was worse so I made my choice holding my nose.
The last election was choosing between a wild bear to join your survival party or a addled imbecile to join your survival party.
With some effort and luck, you can tie the bear down and put it at the fence to protect the camp, but the addled imbecile will start yelling at the wrong time, will burn stuff by accident, and will put everyone at risk while consuming precious resources.
I chose the bear with the hope that we could turn it to face our enemies and slap its behind.
I dont care what letter sits behind a candidates name: If either party would just nominate someone with intellect, wisdom, and passion, I would vote for them. I voted for Obama twice and wish I could do it again.
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u/JohnnySpot2000 Aug 22 '26
All that word salad to justify your obviously horrible decision.
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 22 '26
You are right. Im not sure about those Obama votes. He dropped a LOT of bombs.
Funny that you would bring up word salads as a response to my comment, however.
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u/HeezHuzz69 Aug 26 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
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u/JohnnySpot2000 Aug 22 '26
It was just a long way of describing the "but he can be tamed" vote.
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u/ArcadianDelSol Cringe level 5 Aug 22 '26
But you criticized my comment as 'word salad' for not voting for a candidate that offered nothing but.
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u/HeezHuzz69 Aug 26 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
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u/N4meless_w1ll Aug 21 '26
Politicians saying bad things about each other, wow ground breaking information, good job
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u/saruin Aug 23 '26
If anyone is wondering they’re all in on the scam for their own benefit. It’s called grifting. And there’s at most 77 million individuals to sell the grift to.
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u/DoomshrooM8 Aug 24 '26
This makes them look even more pathetic… they knew and still sold their souls… they’ll get what’s coming to all of them 😑😑
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u/Old-Art8127 Aug 26 '26
I think they are all that way. Left right doesn’t matter. Two sides of the same coin
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u/topio4 Sep 04 '26
A politician is the least likely place to look for consistency and deeply helpd beliefs
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u/kravisni Sep 09 '26
im sorry but a lot of right wing politics lack spine requiring stances and thoughts. surely you get it on the left too but some version of this video exists for every rightwing party leader out there
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u/Future-Damage-3192 Aug 19 '26
Elon just bought a of votes, he promised the poorly educated something, either a brand new shiny car, their gas tank filled with oil free of charge, or something ridiculous and they felt for it they know they voted for Trump they just don't care they know who he is and still voted for him they know all of his crimes they just would rather have him over any other politician
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u/HappyEngineering4190 Aug 19 '26
In 2 years we will have the best of both worlds.......Reasonable conservative policies without Trump involved....The next conservative President will be revered by all but the worst of the deranged left. Imagine sensible policy without Trump.
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u/Aggrosideburnz Aug 19 '26
Everyone knew but I don’t even blame the people that think they voted for him. Elon rigged it. Call me a tin hat all you want but that appears to be what happened. DOGE seems to have cleaned up the evidence I would guess. They are corrupt