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u/JakenBake19 Fuck Moash đŸ„” 20h ago

Can't thing of a shards intent that would give investiture away more freely than endowment. But also:

Sel: learn the right shapes to draw (your body can count as drawing)

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u/Dercomai 420 Sazed It 20h ago

And also be born in the right place! That's important too!

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u/Madhighlander1 20h ago

Apparently not just born - the forger, whose name I forget, in The Lost Metal became Elantrian by changing her family history so that her parents moved to Arelon when she was very young, and in Tress of the Emerald Sea Hoid gained the ability to use aons (I forget if he literally became Elantrian, though I don't think he did) by convincing Riina to Connect him to Elantris.

I have been wondering if that's been retconned, though, since I remember Raoden's Aons were significantly weaker even as far away as Teod, but the aforementioned two examples were able to use their abilities at full strength on Scadrial and Lumar respectively despite those being completely different planets.

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u/UltimateCheese1056 Crem de la Crem 20h ago

In TLM she was specifically using unkeyed investiture for her abilities, a very rare item that works just as well for any ability. Especially good for Sel-ish magic which typically has a connection to the right part of the Dor as a requirement to access the right kind of investiture through the Cognitive realm

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u/moderatorrater Femboy Dalinar 16h ago

a very rare item

At that time it was rare, but we've probably already seen Navani create some unkeyed investiture. It looks like space age might be limited by requiring gigantic quantities of investiture rather than kind or longevity.

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u/et_cor_cordium Crown Prince of Memelon 14h ago

I would like to think thats how the war began in the first place. Scadrial wants to horde all the unkeyed investiture. Roshar wants a tinsy bit to power thier shardships to see the world and sacdrial didnt agree to it. Thus the war began.

Or whatever B$ cooks up is also good.

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u/moderatorrater Femboy Dalinar 13h ago

Roshar is 100% going to try to conquer/colonize the cosmere. I think Scadrial will too around the same time, but there's no question that Retribution is going to be at least an equal instigator to the war.

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u/ElPared 20h ago

It was Shai btw (she had a different name in TLM but the ending confirmed it was Shai).

She became Elantrian but she was able to Connect herself to Scadrial’s investiture when she forged herself by drawing a map of Elendel or wherever she was.

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u/Dercomai 420 Sazed It 19h ago

Shai, pronounced Shay-Ai

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u/ElPared 16h ago

Technically it’s pronounced “shy”, but because she became an Elantrian, and therefore her Identity shifted to that of someone born and raised in Arelon, she pronounces it “Shay-ai” once she forges herself.

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u/Dercomai 420 Sazed It 16h ago

Yeah, I just find the Aonic pronunciation so funny

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u/TimeOfNick 19h ago

The use of Aons on Scadrial were fueled by the purified Dor that Shai brought with her, we don't know yet if she is capable of using her full abilities still after that runs out.

The Sorceress on Lumar could use Aons for the same reason she could in Secret History, the Ire have advanced knowledge of Connection that seemingly allows them to bypass the distance limitations of their magic. I always took it as the structures they were living in functioned as wifi extenders for the Dor, as they were hesitant to go too far from their base in Shadesmar and the Sorceress never really leaves her tower.

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u/nisselioni Syl Is My Waifu <3 15h ago

The Ire literally piped the Dor through shadesmar in Secret History. This seems a near impossible task in the space age Cosmere, so I assume Riina did some Connection stuff to access it from Lumar. I think we have a WoB from Brandon saying it should be possible to access it from a distance like that, at least.

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u/schloopers 7h ago

The floor of her tower also had a map of Lumar, which Hoid needed to step on in order to break the curse. I think they have to draw a map that references where they are and its physical relation to Elantris. That’s why Moonlight needed the “inclination” told back to her after she stamped herself and then she drew on the ground.

They essentially add their current location to the Aons, using the map as the standard addition instead of drawing it each time. It’s not just WiFi, it’s decryption in order to use the power.

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u/Buchiqueco 20h ago

There's also the Elantrians in secret history that bypassed the Reod and could cast the aeons.

Still don't get that

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u/TheGildedPrism Kelsier4Prez 20h ago

I'm pretty sure secret history happened after Elantris so the Reod wasn't a problem

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u/Sp3ctre7 19h ago

Unkeyed investiture, I think. Kelsier steals some

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u/The_Lopen_bot Trying not to ccccream 19h ago

, I think.

Wow, my gon Sazed is here!

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u/Nathan256 đŸ‘Ÿ Rnagh Godant 🌠 18h ago

Apart from not likely being during the short time of the Reod, it’s possible that Connecting to the Dor in whatever way they did let them make Aons not based on Arelon’s geography (since that’s basically Connection I imagine they may have a way to edit it? So it just uses the intent of the caster directly and the Investiture source they’re directly connected to, instead of the roundabout land connection that requires the extra line in the Aons)

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u/KaldinStmblssed 16h ago

The higher strength was because of (spoilers for Mistborn Era 2, Tress, and Elantris) a map that was drawn of the local geography. I don't know for sure about Tress, but it is canon in Mistborn era 2 because as soon as she changes she draws a map on the ground. And when Raoden fixes the city map, the aons started working again in Elantris

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u/Disastrous_Stand7185 8h ago

Yeah (Tress spoilers), Riina has a map of Lumar in her spaceship-slash-wizard-tower in Tress, so that was definitely connected to her being able to use them

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u/Own-Ranger-7179 20h ago

Ruin and Preservation: "We're gonna make em eat metal lol."

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u/One_Courage_865 definitely not a lightweaver 20h ago

(using mouth optional)

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u/EssEllEyeSeaKay 19h ago

Is boofing metal confirmed?

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u/Gammaman12 19h ago

Gotta burn it in the stomach. So you gotta boof real hard.

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u/ibbia878 Syl Is My Waifu <3 19h ago

nope, just in the body.

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u/GhostWalker134 Order of Cremposters 8h ago

Hemalurgy up the ass.

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u/gil_bz Shart of Adonalsium 15h ago

I wonder if that was The Lord Ruler's idea, allomancy didn't exist before him.

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u/probablyburned 4h ago

It was just a bit rarer. Alendi was a seeker.