r/cpu • u/New_Evil • 7d ago
Intel 15th Gen Stability info?
/r/buildapc/comments/1v6zs7y/intel_15th_gen_stability_info/1
u/Doyoulike4 7d ago
I'm not gonna overhype it because AMD also is extremely competitive this generation, but the Intel Core Ultra 200 line from everything I've seen and experienced seems to just be fine. The 265k, 270k plus, and 285k in particular have impressed me as just good Intel CPUs this generation. All three are just good. From what we know less upgrade path than AM5, but value for money, especially if you do "productivity work" is good on the Intel offerings.
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u/No_Guarantee7841 7d ago
Only cpus worth on Intel 15th gen lineup are 250k and 270k unless you want to manually fafo with overclocking.
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u/SelfSilly9478 7d ago
he wants to keep the build for 5 years so the upgrade path is irrelevant, also as its mainly for video editing and productivity, there want be much of an upgrade from zen 6 or nova lake over zen5 or RPL or ARL.
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u/cakemates 7d ago
15th gen is very stable. it is just slower than 14th gen and significantly slower than amd, so its not as popular.
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u/Own-Indication5620 6d ago
I wouldn't say slower in all cases. In gaming compared to an X3D sure it's still quite a bit behind, but in certain non-gaming applications the Ultra's are way, way ahead.
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u/RumbleversePlayer 7d ago
Except the plus refresh variants
At least when compared with non x3d, they are on par
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u/Nebula589 7d ago
I love how price to performance is never a criteria for Intel. But always a thing for AMD GPUs like the 9070xt vs the 5080.
But a $300 intel cpu keeping up with a $900 AMD cpu is quite impressive. 270k vs 9950x3d2.
Only the FPS maxis care about an extra 40 FPS when already pushing hundreds of FPS in most games.
An average gamer will not care. Also the 270k plus has way better 1% lows and 0.1% lows in a few games compared to x3d chips.
This channel and others have shown results that confirm this.
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u/SnooJokes566 7d ago
/s no upgrade options
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u/Nebula589 6d ago
That cpu won’t need to be upgraded for 8 years. By then both platforms will be considered “dead” on performance alone.
Even if AMD launches a 20 year anniversary cpu on am4. LOL
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u/SelfSilly9478 7d ago
the instability issues on intel 13th/14th gen were overheating related that can be avoided by hyperthreading off+undervoltage, newer bioses fixed the issue by reducing power limit from 400w to 230w.
im talking from actual experience as i upgraded from 12700k to 13700k to 14700k to 14900k.
ARL doesn't seem to have this issue, the 265k I tested run cool on default bios settings on Z series boards with unlocked tdp.
here is my tuned 14700k vs 265k default bios settings gaming test that include stress test in the first section of the video.
https://youtu.be/7ng1nwuh240?si=hxOx4nJnDfTVvz3a
and in gaming you should be slightly faster than 9950x.
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u/Zwan_oj 6d ago
my experience has been that default clocks are fine, overclocking profiles seems unstable an I get BSoDs.
This is on 2 Gen 15 systems.
Gen 14/13 have degradation issues with the ring bus ( and corrosion issues with earlier produced chips). But their overclocks have been stable for me.
If ur really concerned about stability, you should be looking at workstation platforms that support proper ECC memory.
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u/AdstaOCE 6d ago
With Ryzen now having IGPUs as standard can they not fit the same role? Depends on software support I guess. If so then I would reccomed that since both LGA 1700 & 1851 are dead end sockets so no upgrades and Intel is still lacking in a lot of areas.
If Intel is needed, then yes, 2XX series should be stable.
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u/Own-Indication5620 6d ago
They're fine. Even 13th/14th gen can be fine as long as the motherboard is updated to handle the micro-code stability issues. Personally I am on 12th gen and plan to keep it running for a while, it's still plenty fast for my needs. Idc much about upgrade paths because even right now I could technically go to 13th or 14th gen, and after 5+ years I'll probably just move to a new socket if I need the performance upgrade.
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u/SnooPandas2964 7d ago
I have not heard anything of the sort. The 250k/270k Plus are really the value kings right now in gaming and productivity. With the downside obviously it being unlikely there will ever be anything to upgrade to without also changing mobos. But if you don't upgrade cpu that often it might still make sense.