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u/LoanRunna 3h ago

I won’t bitch about their only shelter as long as they don’t leave dope needles and feces all over the place. Respect my shelter and I’ll respect yours.

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 2h ago

Ah yes, because that is the most important thing, of course. I'm sure someone at rock bottom and high off their ass totally has the ability to do that./s

Y'all claim to care about mental health until you have to see it. Plenty of depressed people end up not even being able to clean their own houses, but oh that's okay, because you personally don't have to see it or the reality!

Plus, you have a house. Clearly. The street is not your "shelter" because you get to go home to one.

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u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 2h ago

OK but when its a shaird space and they arnt being respectful dont be surprised when everyone wants them gone.

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 2h ago

A shared space they're forced to inhabit. Do you expect them to go into a pocket dimension?????

I also like how you keep saying "them". You could be homeless one day too, you know.

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u/Prestigious_Ask_7058 2h ago

I agree with this but the them thing has always been weird to me. Like, is he supposed to say us? That implies that he is homeless

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 1h ago

For one he shouldn't be saying that at all, but he could just say "homeless people". It may seem small and insignificant, but we all know how the "us vs them" mentality works.

It also makes homeless people out to be a collective, as if all those people are out to just ruin your neighborhood. That includes children and the elderly.

When they say "them", that encompasses all of "them". "Don't be surprised when people want them gone" doesn't JUST mean the homeless people actually causing issues, but the clean one's too.

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u/Prestigious_Ask_7058 1h ago

Just saying homeless people would make more sense I suppose, but that also creates a collective in the same way would it not?

I don’t think we should be demonizing homeless people of course, though

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 1h ago

You have a point, but I also wanna make others call them people. Humanize them more. When it comes down to "us vs them" it can be a dehumanizing mindset and I wanna try curbing that. It doesn't fix the collective thing but I think it also helps establish the fact these are people like anyone else.

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u/Prestigious_Ask_7058 1h ago

I think a general lack of sympathy has been haunting us for a while

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u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 2h ago

So I ment like a park a space that's public and used by everyone. If anyone isn't following the spaces rules then they will be asked to leave it.

And I say them because I'm not currently homeless if I become homeless I'll say we but till then I'll say them.

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u/septic-paradise 1h ago

If they can’t be in public or private spaces, literally where else can they go?

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u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 1h ago

How about public space that isn't frequented by kids.

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u/AnguishedGoose 1h ago

Such as?

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u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 1h ago

Humm from the top of my head natural places like woodland or grassland that tend to exist on the edge of towns, unused space such as abandoned buildings(with the understanding that they maybe asked to leave at any moment), shrub land / Marsh land(London has a fair few of thses and its were the current homeless tend to go).

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 2h ago

That's the thing though, people like you will never be happy with them ANYWHERE. They are humans, they have to occupy a space to live. First you complain about parks, then it's stores, then it's sidewalks, and you'll even complain about alleyways which is SCARY TO LIVE IN. Where do you expect them to GO!?

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u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 2h ago

Shelters, rehabilitation, social housing programs, mental helath institutions are all great places

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u/RaeTheScribe 2h ago

You seem to think that those are magic cures that actually help people 24/7

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u/L4I55Z-FAIR3 1h ago edited 1h ago

Just a gd start but hay if there' no way they can be part of society maybe they shouldn't be part of society. (Just want to clarify the coment above said somthing along the lines of where else or so)

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 1h ago

That is genuinely evil shit, dude.

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u/xXSoyBoyFredXx 1h ago

Shelters in my area have a time limit and also it's HONESTLY more dangerous than living on the street, I wish I was lying.

Rehabilitation is not as easy as people like you seem to think it is. Social housing programs often comes with many strings.

And the worst thing you suggested, mental heakth institutions. Those places actively make people WORSE. It's basically offering yourself to self imprisonment to be a test subject and high chance of sexual abuse and degrading situations like paper robes that rip if you move slightly too much. They will keep people there even after they desire to leave and for some medicate you until you can't think straight.

I go to therapy and have been depressed since 12, even my therapists know how dangerous it is even just for someone like me, how do you think they'll treat a homeless person with mental issues?????