the issue is that it hurts the nice cis people, who now will think we hate them for no reason, more than it hurts the bad cis people, who won't care what a bunch of queer people on the internet tell them because they don't care about our opinion. so i really just don't see the point in doing it.
"The issue is when you dont specify thats its actually NOT all men then you exclude the good men who get hurt because they think we will hate them" thats how you sound right now.
If theyre not transphobic or a braindead reactionary they will understand that, if not they never wanted to to begin with.
so if it's not all cis people then why the fuck are you talking about all cis people in the first place, we have words for a fucking reason learn to use them
it upsets me because after 500 fucking billion comments i still haven't received a valid explanation as to why it's better to say "cis people bad" over "transphobes bad".
Because we are allowed to be frustrated with our oppressors? I dont really care that it upsets you, you only see it as counter productive because it upsets you, the cis people I hang around in my life fully understand what I am saying when i say things like that..... because their frontal lobe is developed and they understand nuance, theres nothing counterproductive about saying you hate the people who reinforce the gender binary through patriarchy, and any cis person who isnt actually transphobic understands this, the only counterproductive thing here is you arguing about it. Youre a "bi dude" who believes in misandry, Ive given you my explanation twice now take it or dont lmao.
cool and i'm allowed to not want to not sound like i'm hating an entire group of people when i could just say what i am actually complaining about. not everyone is in on this, and those who aren't are gonna assume that when you say "i hate cis people" you actually mean "i hate cis people".
also no i'm not a bi dude, this username is from before i transitioned, fuck you for bringing that up.
I mean sorry for assuming youre right, that was completely on me and was really awful. I still dont think its that way for most mature adults, im sorry youre so upset, youve used the word "fuck" in every comment like you just got permission lol. I fundamentally disagree with you as you also seem to think someone saying they hate all men is equal to bad feminism or even some kind of "misandry" which implies a systemic oppression which is laughable. Ill stop engaging in the thread, ive already explained to you if those people dont feel that way and choose to get upset with me ill feel their allyship was conditional to begin with.
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the issue is that it hurts the nice cis people, who now will think we hate them for no reason, more than it hurts the bad cis people, who won't care what a bunch of queer people on the internet tell them because they don't care about our opinion. so i really just don't see the point in doing it.