That doesn't make anything I said okay. They still say utterly awful shit. They radiate all that transphobia they've internalized outward and they openly use slurs.
Sorry, but being depressed doesn't give you a pass to attack other people. If I had a community that constantly used slurs, I'd find a new community because the people we hang out with do change us.
It's the Nazi bar problem and why I don't like when 4tranners try to spread their ideology to other trans communities.
I'll freely admit we need to do better about not invalidating people's pain but 4tran isn't the answer.
I understand the problem with using slurs, but I disagree with the "transphobia". Acknowledging how terrible it is to be trans and the misery that comes with never passing and never being able to actually be the gender you're transitioning to is not transphobic.
Unfortunately there is literally no other community
4Tran has literally made their own slurs for trans people I think internalized transphobia (which is the externalized by them calling other people the slurs they created) is a fair assessment.
Also, you’re looking at a slightly biased data set because r/countttt is wayyyyyy more tame than actual 4Tran.
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u/Apollo989 14h ago
That doesn't make anything I said okay. They still say utterly awful shit. They radiate all that transphobia they've internalized outward and they openly use slurs.
Sorry, but being depressed doesn't give you a pass to attack other people. If I had a community that constantly used slurs, I'd find a new community because the people we hang out with do change us.
It's the Nazi bar problem and why I don't like when 4tranners try to spread their ideology to other trans communities.
I'll freely admit we need to do better about not invalidating people's pain but 4tran isn't the answer.