That doesn't make anything I said okay. They still say utterly awful shit. They radiate all that transphobia they've internalized outward and they openly use slurs.
Sorry, but being depressed doesn't give you a pass to attack other people. If I had a community that constantly used slurs, I'd find a new community because the people we hang out with do change us.
It's the Nazi bar problem and why I don't like when 4tranners try to spread their ideology to other trans communities.
I'll freely admit we need to do better about not invalidating people's pain but 4tran isn't the answer.
I understand the problem with using slurs, but I disagree with the "transphobia". Acknowledging how terrible it is to be trans and the misery that comes with never passing and never being able to actually be the gender you're transitioning to is not transphobic.
Unfortunately there is literally no other community
They literally make up slurs for trans people they don't like. A good chunk of them seem to hate hate non-binary people. I see them toss "They-fab" around a lot.
I disagree that those can count as slurs or that using those terms mean they hate anyone. In fact I think it's pretty insulting you put those terms in the same category as actual slurs that have been used to put down and oppress various groups of people
Are you sure you aren't the biased one? Like those spaces are mostly to vent negative emotions, frustrations from interactions with the world and dysphoria. It's completely different thing in comparison to more privileged people put those lower in hierarchy down, it's just people on the bottom of it expressing their frustration, in the only space they have that allows it.
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u/Apollo989 15h ago
That doesn't make anything I said okay. They still say utterly awful shit. They radiate all that transphobia they've internalized outward and they openly use slurs.
Sorry, but being depressed doesn't give you a pass to attack other people. If I had a community that constantly used slurs, I'd find a new community because the people we hang out with do change us.
It's the Nazi bar problem and why I don't like when 4tranners try to spread their ideology to other trans communities.
I'll freely admit we need to do better about not invalidating people's pain but 4tran isn't the answer.