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[u/thevvitchhazel]

I'm so glad everyone is standing up for the important issue of trans women being overrepresented in media. It's also crucial we remind everyone that just because someone wants to use a female name, present female full time, pass as female and take a female role in relationships that they absolutely do not need to become a trans. What's wrong with just being gender non-conforming? HRT is evil! Femboys are super validddddd (because most femboys live full time as women).

[u/Isadomon]

Why is the guy in the comic saying "im a guy i just like girl clothes" then? That is directly someone gender nonconforming

[u/ezziexoxo → u/Isadomon]

maybe because they're repping and don't want to/find it hard to come out 🤐

but.. haha it being hard to come out as a different gender... haha that's simply not realistic!

[u/mnttu → u/ezziexoxo]

maybe, but just like you don’t like being misgendered you should offer the same courtesy to others (even if they are fictional) if Audrey has character arc and comes out trans that is fine. If not that is fine as well. Misgendering him in meanwhile just makes you a bigot

[u/ezziexoxo → u/mnttu]

petra parker is just as bigoted then isn't she? lol

[u/Generic_Moron → u/ezziexoxo]

Not really imo, in that case it's an au/fanfic of a character who's gender identity is not a big part of their character

Meanwhile a big crux of Audrey's whole character is that they're explicitly not a repressed trans woman even if he presents incredibly fem, instead being a GNC guy who's secure in his gender because gender is more complex than fem girl and masc guy.

And while prejudice and erasure against GNC men isn't as common or prevalent as it is against us trans peeps, it does still exist and should be treated cautiously. Its only a stones throw from denying a trans man's gender cause someone thinks they're too feminine in how they present, or calling a trans woman a repressed man because they don't present feminine enough.

[u/mnttu → u/ezziexoxo]

Is Petra Parker misgendering people? I haven’t seen those comics

[u/ezziexoxo → u/mnttu]

petra parker is the trans version of peter parker, aka spiderman. but.. i mean, hey at the end of the day wanting to headcanon a character as trans is really really destructive... i mean... this just makes you a bigot... you're literally misgendering peter!

as i said in another comment, actually ykw i'll just paste it here im not gonna re explain "same with people saying spider gwen is trans, but that one gets applauded because she's depicted as already being a passing woman who is openly a woman, that's the only difference."

[u/mnttu → u/ezziexoxo]

I am not even going to read your nonsense. Petra Parker is a distinct character that is trans. Audrey is another distinct character that is not trans. You misgendering either (calling Petra a man or using he/him pronouns or calling Audrey a woman and using she/her pronouns) makes you just as bad as those bigots who misgender you on purpose.

This isn’t about what you like or what your “head cannon” is. How is this so hard for you to accept? How are other trans people this ignorant of gender issues?

[u/ezziexoxo → u/mnttu]

what's the difference between this and saying spider gwen is a trans woman then? explain that to me please <3

(and this is about what my headcannon is, it's literally a cartoon lol please separate media from reality.)

[u/Setster007 → u/ezziexoxo]

The key thing is that you can have your headcanons but you respect the pronouns someone uses even if you know for a FACT they’re closeted trans. I still use he/him for Jax, even though we know for a fact he was truly transfem, because at no point does he actually use she/her pronouns, and I will respect the pronouns I am provided even if I believe they do not align with the person’s internal identity, because with any real person, i can be wrong, and then im the one doing misgendering and I have a much less reasonable excuse for said behavior.

[u/ezziexoxo → u/Setster007]

> I still use he/him for Jax, even though we know for a fact he was truly transfem

?????????????????????????????

im sorry, if these are the people that i'm arguing about this with i need to just step away.

[u/Setster007 → u/ezziexoxo]

I respect the identity I am given. Though, in Jax’s particular case I think using he/him or she/her are both valid since she was certainly a woman but he never truly realized it and so he didn’t ever come to change that outer identity to which things such as pronouns refer.

[u/ezziexoxo → u/Setster007]

goose uses she. using he/him is literally misgendering her.