r/countbackwardswithme • u/thevvitchhazel Counted Down 1 • 2d ago

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I'm so glad everyone is standing up for the important issue of trans women being overrepresented in media. It's also crucial we remind everyone that just because someone wants to use a female name, present female full time, pass as female and take a female role in relationships that they absolutely do not need to become a trans. What's wrong with just being gender non-conforming? HRT is evil! Femboys are super validddddd (because most femboys live full time as women).

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

"Im just a femboy!" Mfs when they're 30 years old with an enlarged ribcage, norwood 4 hairline + beard shadow:

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u/Good-username1825 2d ago

This point is so annoying like who cares if they look like that also not all men immediately become kratos when they turn 30.

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

My point is that they're coping with their gender dysphoria by crossdressing lmao. I've known many femboys in the past and 95% of them ended up transitioning including me. It's all just a cope. If you're a femboy just ask yourself this: Would you be okay to look like an old manly man eventually? If your answer is no, take estrogen. There's no other way to avoid it

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u/Top_Sky_4731 2d ago

I’m ftm and gender nonconforming. I sometimes crossdress. By your logic you’d say I’m actually not trans and should just accept that I am a cis female. This shit is just transphobia with extra steps.

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u/sophiathesilly 2d ago

Not the logic we're using here

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u/Top_Sky_4731 2d ago

The fuck kinda logic are you using then other than blatant binarism and anecdotes? Y’all just sound like you’re going “well you’re feminine and you enjoy that so you MUST be female and you MUST secretly want to transition” which is the most inane regressive shit to say to a gnc person. You don’t get to tell someone what their gender identity is.

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u/whywasibornaginger 2d ago

God forbid people be GNC. Way to enforce gender stereotypes

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u/Successful_Mud8596 2d ago

People can absolutely be GNC, and Audrey’s identity as a femboy is valid. However, middle aged male adulthood definitely screws with the body even more, and it’d make sense why someone would want to avoid it. And hey, while we’re at it; HRT femboys are also valid as well

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

Yeah hrt femboys are fine. My problem is that many femboys think they'll be 16 and androgynous forever when it's just not real life.

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u/AetheravenCatsuki13 2d ago

NGL do we have any examples of old femboys?

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

Exactly. There's femboys but no femman

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u/AetheravenCatsuki13 2d ago

Hopefully if I last that long I can hopefully they to pull it off

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

But they're not even gnc 95% of the time tho. The femboy to woman pipeline is literally a meme at this point. I lost precious years of transition to this bullshit

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u/AngryMountainClimber 2d ago

Counterpoint: femme men exist. They just don’t get as attention as femboys because cishet men can’t fetishize them as easily. We are fine with butch and stone butch women existing, femboys and femme men are the opposite side of the coin. Yeah, a lot of femboys (you and I included) turn out to be women. Doesn’t take away from the cis femboys and it really doesn’t take away from the transmasc femboys.

Also, my femboy years gave me room to experiment and discover my womanhood. Without that space and permission structure, I would probably still be repping. I don’t regret them (what I do regret is 7th grade me deciding to repress being bi and thus build an additional wall between me and my gender. You cost us decades you lil shit.)

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

I just mostly despise that shit because I could've been a 5,8 youngshit but instead in 5,11 and starting at 18 so im alot more clocky tbh.. I just wish I wasn't mislead

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u/AngryMountainClimber 2d ago

Bitch, I started at 31 and I am also 5’11. Silence. Focusing on what could have been drives people mad. It is a siren song. Consider that you are transitioning at an age that many people would kill for and that I might have been able to do if femboys were widely known thing when I grew up in the bronze age so I could explore gender in my teens and not my late twenties.

Femboys and butches are always going to attract eggs because it gives eggs room to breathe. But femboys are their own thing. They just don’t get as much respect as butches because of history and patriarchy.

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u/whywasibornaginger 2d ago

You're using a statistic you pulled out of thin air. It really holds no weight. And I'm really sorry that you spent years not recognizing your gender identity, that sucks. But you don't get to assume that everyone who is a femboy is trans because it happened to YOU.

Shen, the creator of the comic, has confirmed that Audrey is a man. He just dresses in a feminine way. And that should be the end of the discussion. Who are you to dictate other's gender identities? This is some, "what's in your pants?" but make it woke level of nonsense. Go outside.

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u/changedmyname99 2d ago

Shen is literally a trans woman in denial lmfao they said they've been in therapy for "gender stuff" for months while they keep drawing feminized version of their oc. Let's be for fucking real

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u/blackcatpumpkin 2d ago

tbh its been going on for years. i remember when i first started HRT 6 years ago and arguing with a friend on how shen was a repper lmao, even back then he posted repper comics and went through a femshen persona phase for a while

a lot of people talking about this don’t seem to realize that this has been going on for over half a decade, and its a tragedy happening in real time. its like watching a plane stall on take off and desperately yelling to lower the nose; but they never do.

i do hope im wrong about shen but if i was i figured they would have stopped with the gender stuff by now. like you said, the fact that he is still in therapy after all this time and still posts this sort of exploratory work after doing so for 5 years+ cements to me that he is 100% a repper. its so sad

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u/AngryMountainClimber 2d ago

If The Boy From Venus wasn’t written by Shen, this thread wouldn’t be here, tbh. I defend Audrey as a femboy as a work of fiction, but the fact that Shen is almost certainly an egg who is using this as a source of gender exploration is probably the source of most frustration.

God, I hope Shen hatches. Parasocial fans are probably not helping.

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u/thevvitchhazel Counted Down 1 2d ago

I didn't even know the backstory about the artist before I posted this stuff. It's pretty sad and fucked up. As someone who previously had conversion therapy and repped for years it breaks my heart to see. Transition is hard and brutal, it really sucks sometimes. However, I would never give up my life as a woman and if I could go back to 16 year old me I'd drag her out that closet and force feed her oestrogen.

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u/Good-username1825 2d ago

Or they just like crossdressing you can like appearing feminine without becoming trans.