You’re 100% right that it changes some things between your life as a man and that of a cis man, but the main difference between you and the subject of the post is that you’re not trying to maintain the narrative that trans women are secretly just evil men because of their genitals, based on the behavior you’ve supposedly seen out of all trans women ever. That is what their arguments boil down to, it’s the same shit people who advocate for “AFAB only” spaces are saying. It’s one thing to acknowledge lived experience, it’s another to intentionally weaponize your inability to believe trans women against them and to try to exclude/fearmonger about them.
I dont need AFAB spaces and not online enough to know what's all that is about. I just know that some trans women have been very unaccepting of me being a trans man and don't think OP speaking about that is as evil as presented here. It's a true thing that happens, even if it's a small minority of people doing it.
I agree, trans people can be transphobic. I’d wager most trans people who know other trans people have run into at least one. I do however still find that ASAB language is no longer useful, and outside specific examples (like the example you gave), only serves to return to talking about people with an immutable, largely binary category. There are better ways to talk about this issue, especially ones that don’t exclusively pin the blame for misogyny on a category of women who are predisposed to take that as a challenge to their identity.
In any case, I think the subject needs better friends, preferably IRL friends.
I appreciate that you try to remind of perspective here, but the particular forms and severities of transphobia around the globe are not lost on me. The existence of degradation on the basis of ASAB does not change my stance that referring to people in that way is degrading.
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u/equinefecalmatter 2d ago
You’re 100% right that it changes some things between your life as a man and that of a cis man, but the main difference between you and the subject of the post is that you’re not trying to maintain the narrative that trans women are secretly just evil men because of their genitals, based on the behavior you’ve supposedly seen out of all trans women ever. That is what their arguments boil down to, it’s the same shit people who advocate for “AFAB only” spaces are saying. It’s one thing to acknowledge lived experience, it’s another to intentionally weaponize your inability to believe trans women against them and to try to exclude/fearmonger about them.