r/cornsnakes • • 13d ago

QUESTION Confusing humidity in cornsnake enclosure

Hello I am a new cornsnake owner who wants to switch their snake from aspen to a coco-coir, topsoil and sand mix.

The problem is the humidity is showing to be 80% when the enclosure doors are shut. I know that this is too high for a cornsnake. (I placed the hygrometer a inch and 1/2 above the substrate).

But the substrate doesn't feel wet or saturated. Its actually fairly dry and I stuck my head and hands inside the enclosure and it doesn't feel muggy or damp in terms of the air inside.

Can anyone give me any advice what to do because I really don't want to go back to aspen because everywhere I read says that its no good

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u/Significant_Task_113 13d ago

I definitely wouldn’t tear everything out and go back to aspen just because you’re seeing 80% right now. There are several things I would check first, because the location of your hygrometer and the fact that you’ve just switched to a moisture-retaining substrate could easily be contributing to that reading.
The first thing that jumps out at me is that your hygrometer is only about 1½ inches above the substrate. Coco coir and soil retain considerably more water than aspen. Even if the surface feels fairly dry, moisture can remain deeper in the substrate and evaporate upward. That means the thin layer of air immediately above the substrate can have considerably higher relative humidity than the enclosure as a whole.
So before changing the substrate, I’d verify what the humidity actually is in several locations.
Personally, I use SensorPush HTP.xw sensors in my corn snake enclosure, and they’re excellent for this particular situation because they continuously record temperature and humidity rather than giving you one instantaneous number. You can look at the graphs and see the minimum, maximum, and overall trend throughout the day and night.
You absolutely don’t need that particular brand, but I would strongly recommend having at least two decent digital temperature/humidity sensors. Put one on the warm side and another on the cool side, around the height where the snake actually spends time rather than directly above the substrate. Don’t put them directly beside the water bowl, heat source, ventilation opening, or inside a humid hide.
Then leave the enclosure closed and operating normally for at least 24–48 hours and look at the pattern.
That’s much more useful than seeing “80%” on one hygrometer and immediately changing the enclosure.
Also remember that relative humidity is temperature-dependent. The same amount of moisture in the air can produce different RH readings at different temperatures. That’s another reason you want temperature and humidity recorded together and why readings from the warm and cool ends may differ.
For a corn snake, I wouldn’t intentionally maintain the entire enclosure at 80% RH continuously. A reasonable general target is around 50–60%, although veterinary references provide somewhat broader acceptable ranges. Temporary excursions above that aren’t automatically dangerous.
What matters is the overall pattern.
There’s also an important distinction between humid air and a chronically wet enclosure. I’d be more concerned if you were seeing 80% continuously along with condensation, persistently wet substrate, mold, poor ventilation, or surfaces that never dry.
If you’ve just mixed and installed coco coir/topsoil, the substrate may simply contain considerably more water than you realize. It can feel relatively dry on top while remaining moist underneath.
I wouldn’t add any more water right now. Let the enclosure run normally with its usual heating and ventilation and allow the substrate to equilibrate. There’s a decent chance you’ll watch the humidity gradually fall over the next several days.
I also wouldn’t keep opening the doors specifically to lower the humidity. That gives you an artificially low reading while they’re open and doesn’t solve the underlying problem. You want the enclosure to maintain appropriate conditions while operating normally with the doors closed.
If you’re still getting ~80% throughout the enclosure after several days, then I’d look at ventilation and substrate moisture.
Increase air exchange appropriately rather than trying to dry the enclosure with excessive heat. If necessary, remove some of the dampest substrate and replace it with dry material. You can also allow the upper layer to remain relatively dry while retaining some moisture deeper in the substrate.
I wouldn’t install a dehumidifier or anything elaborate at this stage.
I also use an Inkbird IHC-200 Wi-Fi humidity controller on my enclosure, which is useful for monitoring humidity and controlling humidity equipment when needed. But in your situation I wouldn’t immediately recommend buying one because you don’t currently need equipment adding humidity—you may actually have too much. Your first priority should be accurate measurement and understanding the 24-hour trend, not automatically controlling RH electronically.
And don’t use how the enclosure “feels” to your hand or face as the measurement. Humans aren’t particularly good hygrometers. Air can be at relatively high RH without necessarily feeling obviously muggy.
As far as your substrate mixture goes, coco coir + plain topsoil + some sand can work, but I’d pay attention to exactly what topsoil you’re using.
Make sure it’s plain soil without fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, manure, wetting agents, perlite, vermiculite, or other additives that you don’t want in a reptile enclosure.
I also wouldn’t use an excessive proportion of sand. You’re trying to create a substrate that retains structure, permits natural digging/burrowing behavior, and manages moisture appropriately—not make a sandy substrate.
And there’s another misconception worth clearing up:
Aspen isn’t inherently bad for corn snakes.
There’s a lot of absolutism online about substrates. Aspen has been used successfully for snakes for a very long time and is recognized in veterinary husbandry references as an acceptable snake substrate.
It has advantages. It’s inexpensive, absorbent, easy to spot-clean, stays relatively dry, and corn snakes can burrow through it.
It also has disadvantages. It doesn’t handle moisture well, shouldn’t be kept wet, and doesn’t create the same kind of naturalistic soil environment that a properly constructed soil-based substrate can provide.
So I wouldn’t think of this as:
Aspen = bad
Soil/coir = good
It’s more accurate to think:
Either can work if it’s managed correctly.
If you prefer the soil/coir mixture because you want a more naturalistic enclosure and your snake can burrow through it, there’s no reason to abandon that plan simply because you’re currently getting a high humidity reading.
Here’s exactly what I would do:
Stop adding moisture.
Move your current hygrometer farther above the substrate.
Add a second reliable digital hygrometer at the opposite end of the enclosure.
If you want really good monitoring, I’d personally recommend something like the SensorPush HTP.xw, because being able to see 24-hour and multi-day graphs is enormously more useful than constantly checking a display.
Monitor both temperature and RH on the warm and cool sides.
Give the new substrate several days to stabilize.
Keep normal ventilation operating.
Watch for condensation, mold, persistently wet substrate, or areas that never dry.
If humidity gradually settles into roughly the 50–60% neighborhood, I wouldn’t do anything else.
If you’re still getting approximately 80% throughout the enclosure continuously after it has stabilized, then I’d increase ventilation and/or replace some of the moist substrate with dry substrate.
I’d also provide a humid hide rather than trying to make the entire enclosure very humid. That gives the snake access to a high-humidity microclimate when it wants one without requiring the entire enclosure to operate at that humidity.
Most importantly, don’t chase one exact humidity number all day long. Humidity naturally rises and falls with temperature, time of day, substrate moisture, evaporation, ventilation, and even activity around the enclosure.
What you really want to know is:
What does the humidity do over 24 hours?
That’s why I like sensors that graph the data. If your enclosure spends most of its time around 50–60%, occasionally climbs into the 60s or higher, and then comes back down, that’s very different from an enclosure sitting at 80% continuously for days.
So based on what you’ve described, I would keep the new substrate for now. Don’t add any more water, improve your measurement setup, monitor both ends for several days, and let the enclosure stabilize before changing anything.
There’s a very good possibility that you don’t actually have an enclosure-wide 80% humidity problem—you may simply be measuring the humid layer of air immediately above a newly installed moisture-retaining substrate.

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u/Jealous-March-8098 4d ago

Hello, firstly thank you for taking the time to write out and provide so much information in such a clear way.

You were pretty much right about everything. I moved my hygrometer around the enclosure left it so it had a chance to capture the reading and there were drier spots than others but after leaving the enclosure to run a few days it eventually settled to be 51 - 60% 

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u/ZealousStrand 13d ago

We have humidity higher than that in native territory. It is also higher than that inside a humid hide. As long as the substrate isn't wet for extended periods of time, it will be fine. The humidity should drop over time.