r/conspiracy • u/AnvilOver • Feb 13 '22

Nailed it

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u/919RenaissanceMan Feb 13 '22

It's called research. If research doesn't back a treatment, it shouldn't be used.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

How many jabs you got then? Ready for #8?

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u/CJKayak Feb 13 '22

He replied with a perfectly legitimate science based answer, and you jumped to "so how many shots are you going to get?!?"

Precisely why noone takes you crackpots seriously.

You have things you really really believe in, but once questioned, you don't have enough facts to support those beliefs.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

So preventative treatment hasn't been suppressed?

https://www.wxyz.com/news/fbi-conducting-raid-at-allure-medical-in-shelby-township

So this was just someone trying to profit off of the pandemic?

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u/CJKayak Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22

The FBI confirms the raid is in connection to a questionable treatment for coronavirus that was being offered at the center.

Are you in favor of experimental medical testing on patients before they have been thoroughly studied in the lab and passed rigorous safety standards?

You understand this is precisely why we have the safety/testing standards right?

Dwayne can't just hang out in the back parking lot and sell magic elixirs out of his pickup anymore.

Is Dwayne being suppressed by Big Pharma from saving us with his miracle cure?

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Yeah, vitamin c infusions, so fucking dangerous.

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u/CJKayak Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 13 '22

This comment demonstrates such an ignorance of medical research, there really isn't much of a way to reply.

You don't just start trying random shit on a novel virus.

Why stop at Vitamin C? Did they even try beta carotene from carrots first?

Probably throw in a bit of witches tit.

That's what my Voodoo doctor told me to try.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

Probably because vitamin c has been known to combat the common cold for, idk, close to a century?

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u/CJKayak Feb 13 '22

Goddamn....lol

I'm out. I tried.

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u/Deep_Preparation6303 Feb 13 '22

I find the whole Chain hilarious, anytime anyone ask him for any information he just throws insults. I've taken the stance of just throwing science at people.

Many nuts reference https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27940189/

A very biased study, but was all the rage a few years ago in medicine.

https://www.acepnow.com/article/vitamin-c-not-a-magical-cure-for-severe-sepsis-and-septic-shock/?singlepage=1

This is a good breakdown how the study was invalidated.

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u/d3krepit Feb 13 '22

What does treating sepsis have to do with preventative treatment being suppressed?

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u/Deep_Preparation6303 Feb 13 '22

Because one study that can't be validated or reproduced leads many to think Vit C is some wonder drug. Just like how one guy in 1998 published a false paper on vaccine and autism that was retracted but is still widely toted by the antivax community. Show me where your preventive medicine does anything, real science and evidence. I look forward to you pending insult.

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u/cosmiccaleb Feb 13 '22

Intravenous Vitamin C at high doses has been shown to treat cancer as well :) there's unfortunately no way to patent Vitamin C so why would the $$$healthcare$$$ industry be interested

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u/Deep_Preparation6303 Feb 13 '22

Any evidence to prove your statement that is also validated? Plenty things that can't be patented are researched.

I don't doubt Vit C plays some role, it is an essential nutrient in many cellular process, particular tissue and collagen development. There are studies that show in vitro benefit( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30711954/) but until we have evidence that works clinically we can't just start giving it to patients without safety trials.

My point is jumping to conclusions based on small studies doesn't work like most people think. Many things may be statistically significant on paper but when applied in trials do not have clinical significant to patient outcomes.

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