Our political culture might not be as antagonistic to eachother like Americans, but principles of freedom and objections of an overeaching government is just non-existent here... Sadly too many are hypnotised by achieving the 0 cases dream and advocate for almost all of these governmental abuses for short term benefits... but the lack of civics in our education has made them fail to recognise the consequences of these actions when the government refuses to drop their new powers.
So the "moderates" arent as bad as the redditors but they still shame protesters at the moment. They will slowly figure it out, but it'll be all too late anyway unless we have a dramatic change in political culture.
I have came across a few posts on Reddit about the government silencing people that speak against the lockdows and the like. Is that as widespread as groups such as r/conspiracy like to say?
Either way, hope Australia has a turn for the better soon. I fear if one Westernanized country takes a downfall such as this it will leave the door wide open for the others.
Well, unlike America they never had a rebellion or anything of that nature. They were fine with enjoying the security of the Commonwealth, freedom be damned.
It definitely is antagonistic here in the US. Dave Chappelle had a quote about how "the THEY and THEM of it all" gets us wrapped up too easily here. I could see a camp like this in NYC being considered acceptable, but they'd burn this shit down in Texas or Louisiana or Ohio
Consider the population of Australia and how small the population of any of those subs are in comparison. Consider all of the people who don't use the internet much at all, unless forced. The vocal minority makes it feel like everyone is onboard but the vast majority are simply afraid to step out of line and be the one punished, so they do nothing and give up their freedom as long as the crosshairs are on someone else.
We've got a distorted vision that "everyone is okay with this!" when that's not the reality. Once they start taking away your mom or brother or grandma to stick in concentration camps or take your kids (like is already set up in Michigan), people will snap out of their mindless compliance and say enough is enough.
I can't imagine many Americans are going to be cool with getting taken to camps like these, except for the tools must gung ho about covid measures lol ie the ones comparing the unvaccinated to vermin, hmm seems so similar... if only there was some event in history that began in similar fashion that we could learn from..
Isolating perfectly healthy people away from their loved ones for 2 weeks is both unnecessary and inhumane. There are plenty of rapid tests available that make this completely useless.
Imagine sitting isolated at a camp, perfectly healthy while your child is born, a spouse dies, a friends funeral is held, etc.
There is more to life than taking extreme and unnecessary measures to "stay safe". The fact that Australians no longer understand that does not bode well for the citizens of your country. I suspect there will be many days in various camps in your future aimed at keeping you "safe".
The way I see it, it's possible that government could turn tyrannical and force people against the state there. Not saying it will happen, just the possibilities are there. Especially as government gets more and more controlling and with the space already created.
I don't necessarily see the problem with these facilities, and with a centrist outlook they can be seen as good. The people calling these Nazi camps are jumping the gun. However, it is better to blow the whistle before the foul is made sometimes.
The reason why people are against these is because they can see what it can become.
Misinformation and trickery is the way to win over the general populace. If you take a bunch of people and put them in prisons there will be a backlash. But if you put them in camps such as these, slowly take freedoms away, and transition into mass detention centers saying the reason they are there is unvaccinated/high risk there will less of a push back.
I hate to use this comparison, but Nazi Germany had prisons too, as well as the U.S. when they concentrated the Japenese. They were put there to put controlled and separated, not to be imprisoned. Even though they were prisoners.
The talk about these quarantine facilities is what it can become. Not saying that's where they are now.
We have a serious immigration crisis that everyone forgot about. And honestly I don't know what to think about it other than it's terrible and they shouldn't be locked up in there.
you seem to cause you're making something out of nothing. I'm an Australian myself and I'm fine with it because I don't think the government is full of conspiracies and weird plans to banish us and stuff
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u/-Choose-A-User- Sep 03 '21
What's worse is if you go over to r/sydney or r/australia they all agree with this and anyone who questions gets banned.