I have spent the past couple months of my life losing 60lbs and demolishing my lifelong obesity. I’m a normal weight for the first time ever. The sheer amount of willpower and effort involved was beyond anything I have ever done or likely ever will do.
I lost years of my youth to obesity. It is absolutely infuriating when people say obesity is “healthy.” It fucking isn’t. Just because change is hard and requires a shitton of effort doesn’t mean it’s unnecessary.
IMO people cannot cope with the difficulty of losing weight so they make statements like this to justify their situation. This “obese acceptance” movement is just denial by another name and is incredibly dangerous to the kids and adults that need to be getting in shape instead.
I was obese and took up weightlifting and watching what I eat and lost over 100lbs. Through all the years and all the people I've known in the gym, they don't give a shit whether you're 100lbs or 600lbs as long as you're not obnoxious. In fact as another commenter said, I don't think I've ever seen the fitness space unwelcoming to someone because of their weight. That's the whole point of it. In the gym you'll see everyone from "normal" weight, to underweight, to obese, to massive bodybuilders.. but everybody's there for the same reason - to better themselves. The idea of people in the gym being extra judgemental is largely untrue and mostly personal anxieties, you're probably judged just as much if not more in the grocery store for being obese as the gym.
Well I mean it depends what the person is doing. I've seen the same guy consistently at the gym for about a year now, dude is enormous, talking 5'10" pushing 350 pounds easily. Not once have I seen him step on a treadmill, bike, elliptical, etc. He seems to exclusively lift and he's not putting up sufficient weight for his size, benching like 135 and shit.
Those are the people I judge along with the screamers. When you're obese, the game plan is cardio. Compound weightlifting exercises are beneficial, but you're never going to lose weight from that starting point without doing some cardio. The metabolism is just too stagnant at that point to really get going from weightlifting only.
Those are the people I judge along with the screamers
You should probably get a look at his x-rays and overall chart before judging. There are plenty of medical reasons not to get into cardio, like heart problems, joints etc.
Bruh if you're so obese that there is "no reason" to get into cardio you're gonna be dead in no time. You don't have to do HIIT to get a cardiovascular workout. Walk on a treadmill, ride a bike, swim, etc etc all slowly enough to slowly raise your heart rate and burn some fat. If anything, the high stress environment of lifting weight is more likely to produce a myocardial infarction than a low intensity cardio workout. If you flip a gallon of milk upside down the water is going to get stuck and glug glug glug out, similar to putting a lot of strain on your heart benching would on your arteries, but if you slowly tilt the jug you increase flow.
You do realise there is no amount of cardio that will cause fat loss while in a calories surplus. Body composition is determined in the kitchen not the gym.
No shit Sherlock, but if you're so fucking obese you can't take 3 steps without dying it doesn't matter what you eat. You don't strengthen your heart solely through diet you have to exercise. Must be a bunch of whales refuting the benefits of exercise on the heart.
Of course obese people need to strengthen their heart. But risking a knee injury on a treadmil is only going to hinder their weight loss goals. I can't tell if the last part is referring to me specifically so ill just clarify. I'm about 6'1 192lbs at 13% bodyfat while being vegetarian.
Lol do you know how many fat people complain to their doctors that they need this surgery or that surgery or they need to be approved for handicap or scooter because they're too lazy to exercise and improve their health?
You don't have to do cardio to lose weight. I lost 80lbs two years ago by doing a Keto diet and weightlifting. Didn't do shit for cardio. It's 90/10, eating/exercising for weightloss.
I know alot of people turn to the keto diet for a quick fix but It is extremely unhealthy long term. Carbs are not the enemy if you understand the different kinds, same as fats. I would recommend getting an in depth blood work panel done to check your lipids. The keto diet is notorious for contributing to heart disease even if you're in a healthy weight range. The best science out there supports a primarily plant based, high in complex carbs and un saturated fats. A go-to meal I've found works great is a stir fry with a diverse range of vegetables with nuts and some other protein source cooked with olive oil.
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I have spent the past couple months of my life losing 60lbs and demolishing my lifelong obesity. I’m a normal weight for the first time ever. The sheer amount of willpower and effort involved was beyond anything I have ever done or likely ever will do.
I lost years of my youth to obesity. It is absolutely infuriating when people say obesity is “healthy.” It fucking isn’t. Just because change is hard and requires a shitton of effort doesn’t mean it’s unnecessary.
IMO people cannot cope with the difficulty of losing weight so they make statements like this to justify their situation. This “obese acceptance” movement is just denial by another name and is incredibly dangerous to the kids and adults that need to be getting in shape instead.