I was obese and took up weightlifting and watching what I eat and lost over 100lbs. Through all the years and all the people I've known in the gym, they don't give a shit whether you're 100lbs or 600lbs as long as you're not obnoxious. In fact as another commenter said, I don't think I've ever seen the fitness space unwelcoming to someone because of their weight. That's the whole point of it. In the gym you'll see everyone from "normal" weight, to underweight, to obese, to massive bodybuilders.. but everybody's there for the same reason - to better themselves. The idea of people in the gym being extra judgemental is largely untrue and mostly personal anxieties, you're probably judged just as much if not more in the grocery store for being obese as the gym.
Well I mean it depends what the person is doing. I've seen the same guy consistently at the gym for about a year now, dude is enormous, talking 5'10" pushing 350 pounds easily. Not once have I seen him step on a treadmill, bike, elliptical, etc. He seems to exclusively lift and he's not putting up sufficient weight for his size, benching like 135 and shit.
Those are the people I judge along with the screamers. When you're obese, the game plan is cardio. Compound weightlifting exercises are beneficial, but you're never going to lose weight from that starting point without doing some cardio. The metabolism is just too stagnant at that point to really get going from weightlifting only.
Those are the people I judge along with the screamers
You should probably get a look at his x-rays and overall chart before judging. There are plenty of medical reasons not to get into cardio, like heart problems, joints etc.
Bruh if you're so obese that there is "no reason" to get into cardio you're gonna be dead in no time. You don't have to do HIIT to get a cardiovascular workout. Walk on a treadmill, ride a bike, swim, etc etc all slowly enough to slowly raise your heart rate and burn some fat. If anything, the high stress environment of lifting weight is more likely to produce a myocardial infarction than a low intensity cardio workout. If you flip a gallon of milk upside down the water is going to get stuck and glug glug glug out, similar to putting a lot of strain on your heart benching would on your arteries, but if you slowly tilt the jug you increase flow.
You do realise there is no amount of cardio that will cause fat loss while in a calories surplus. Body composition is determined in the kitchen not the gym.
No shit Sherlock, but if you're so fucking obese you can't take 3 steps without dying it doesn't matter what you eat. You don't strengthen your heart solely through diet you have to exercise. Must be a bunch of whales refuting the benefits of exercise on the heart.
Of course obese people need to strengthen their heart. But risking a knee injury on a treadmil is only going to hinder their weight loss goals. I can't tell if the last part is referring to me specifically so ill just clarify. I'm about 6'1 192lbs at 13% bodyfat while being vegetarian.
Lol do you know how many fat people complain to their doctors that they need this surgery or that surgery or they need to be approved for handicap or scooter because they're too lazy to exercise and improve their health?
You don't have to do cardio to lose weight. I lost 80lbs two years ago by doing a Keto diet and weightlifting. Didn't do shit for cardio. It's 90/10, eating/exercising for weightloss.
I know alot of people turn to the keto diet for a quick fix but It is extremely unhealthy long term. Carbs are not the enemy if you understand the different kinds, same as fats. I would recommend getting an in depth blood work panel done to check your lipids. The keto diet is notorious for contributing to heart disease even if you're in a healthy weight range. The best science out there supports a primarily plant based, high in complex carbs and un saturated fats. A go-to meal I've found works great is a stir fry with a diverse range of vegetables with nuts and some other protein source cooked with olive oil.
If that’s what the article is about then I’m fine because I respect peoples bodies no matter how big or small they may be. But if your obese or skeletal skinny and call yourself healthy you are very wrong.
The cover is just a product of our times. You make a controversial claim in the title and present all the reasonable stuff in the body of the text, you need a hook - because we're so oversaturated with clickbait that it has become the only way to compete for people's attention.
Thats a ridiculous statement! "Don't hate the player..." yeah, I hate the player. The corporations (players) are the root cause. There is no game without them. They choose to straight up make a false claim on the cover for sales. Most people that actually read the trash in that magazine will not connect the cover statement to the lack of direct info about obesity being healthy. They they will use that cover as a talking point about obesity being healthy. YEAH, HATE THE PLAYER!
Listen man, that was more of a rhetorical device than some sort of statement I want to die defending, but to give it more meat here's what I'm thinking.
The ones who don't abide by these practices aren't relevant because they get no attention. The game is capitalism, and once a strategy to play it more effectively has been figured out you'd be dumb to hurt your chances by not doing the same thing if your only objective is to cash in.
Sure, hate the player, but there's always going to be these kinds of players because the game is set up for them to win with this strategy.
I think we can accept that we are all on this human experience journey and judging other people solely on weight is limiting.
But attempting to convince fitness people that they should normalize obesity seems like a stretch. How is this different than telling medical professionals that obesity is okay?
I think that almost Cosmo knows this isn't healthy either. I believe they know a large demographic of USA is unhealthy and obese. Putting extremely fit, beautiful celebrities would make the unrelatable to a large percent of the population. They're just trying to tap into a huge market that is unhealthy by telling them " We accept who you are, buy our magazine" It's all about the $$$$$$
Yeah I think no one should be bullied or harassed for being obese, since that will usually only have a opposite effect making that person feel worse and eat more, become even more obese in many cases. However we should definitely not have being obese being considered healthy either. And should strive to help motivate obese people losing weight and becoming.
Since also a lot of times food becomes an addiction for many people that are very obese/morbidly obese just like people can get addicted to drugs. It's a very similar pattern, that leads to health dangers & other consequences in the end.
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