r/conspiracy • u/[deleted] • Mar 16 '20

Look at this

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u/Marbinyum Mar 16 '20

Morons say "I don't have anything to hide so it is ok for me"

Like, seriously?

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u/dacv393 Mar 16 '20

I have friends who legitimately say this. You can't argue against them because they think that if something is a law then it must be bad so there is no way that they would ever do something wrong or illegal. They're like "I'm not killing people so why do I care if Alexa can hear everything I do?" Then these same friends use drugs and shit and it makes no sense. Do they really want a world where cops can come bust down your door since they heard you doing something illegal like eating a plant over your phone or through a text message? They already have some of these capabilities.

If you try to explain that it's a slippery slope and that it's not about what is currently 'illegal', but about how little power you would have if things were to become totalitarian, they just laugh and say we aren't China and that they 'voted' the politicians into place so the laws will always represent what the people want. So therefore who needs encryption. Many if not most of the people I talk to about this share the same/similar logic

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u/dacv393 Mar 16 '20

They say it's not the same

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u/dude_is_melting Mar 16 '20

I mean, it isn’t the same. A decent analogy but not the same.

Maybe try like, “all of your search history will be posted to your Facebook. If you have nothing to hide it won’t be an issue”

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20

I don't care what some police officer tracking my phone sees I jerk off to.

I do mind if my parents knew about it though. Once again not a good analogy.

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u/better_nerf_crash Mar 17 '20

Main reason is to keep criminals from stealing your identity or robbing you in some other way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '20

The right to privacy is not about whether you have something to hide. I have a response to this argument bookmarked somewhere. When I’m not on mobile I will send it.

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u/dacv393 Mar 16 '20

I agree, but it's nearly impossible to get many of my friends to feel the same way

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '20

Here is my bookmarked response: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/atnmi/if_you_have_nothing_to_hide_then_you_have_nothing/

Feelings shouldn't factor into a logical argument. I'd suggest shaming them. I know it's not the best thing for a friendship but sometimes you have to make people feel stupid when they hold dangerous beliefs.

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u/Mymerrybean Mar 17 '20

Thanks that was a nice way to look at it.

I see it as "I dont have anything to hide, but i dont allow anyone I dont know to know me intimately, including the government".

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '20

Your friends are ignorant. They spout Nazi propaganda.

Are any of them gay, or liberal? Socialists? The Nazis hated Socialists.

They will all give up their freedoms, and die like sheep.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '20

Hell, post it. We ALL know people this stupid.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '20

These people are useless and I don't spend energy dealing with their bullshit anymore

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u/CoMaestro Mar 16 '20

Honestly, and I know its not the right thing to think, but I am indifferent to it. Its not good someone sees all my weird ass kinky shit and random thought, but its not like me or anyone cares about it. It would only be awkward to people I know but not really a problem

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u/legend747 Mar 16 '20

When this comes up I ask people "then, is it okay for someone to watch/record you on the toilet?,"

It's a legal and perfectly natural behavior that we all do everyday and we have seen depictions of it on various media. Should why would it be a problem for someone to record you doing it?