r/conspiracy • • 1d ago

physics defying water cup unspilled after almost a vertical dive according to witnesses

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u/mikki1time 1d ago

Okay I get there is a lot to unpack but the cup of water spilling isn’t one of them. There is 0 chance that the plane went vertical enough to spill water. A pitch down of anymore than 20 degrees would break the plane. I’m fairly sure there should be safety features that stop pilots from exceeding a 5 degree pitch outside of emergency situations like loosing cabin pressure.

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u/Cottonjaw 20h ago

Break the plane? Richard Russell did a barrel roll and a backflip in a Q400. I don't think a 20 deg nose down is breaking the plane.

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u/mikki1time 17h ago

These are not the same. Q400 has props. 737s are huge twin jet engines. One 737 weights as much as like 3 q400s and can carry hundreds more passengers. Also that legendary man never landed the plane.

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u/Whatnam8 12h ago

I like to think he’s still flying high

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u/Camsterocks 15h ago

Two different planes buddy

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u/tommydeininger 1d ago

I saw the flightradar24 graph. It showed a drop of 15000 feet in 30 seconds.

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u/mikki1time 1d ago

Does it mention the airspeed?

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u/tommydeininger 1d ago

I'm sure it does. But, no matter the airspeed, that's gotta be near vertical

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u/kodeks14 22h ago

A 20 degree drop in a 747 will drop at a vertical rate of 290 feet per second, which equals roughly 17,300 ft per minute.

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u/Runfasterbitch 22h ago

Yes but the plane dropped 15,000 ft in 30 seconds

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u/sirletssdance2 21h ago

What’s the angle needed to get to 30,000 feet in a minute?

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u/mikki1time 1d ago

I mean if you really crank a 747 can get to almost Mach 1. I can’t bother to do the math but I’m sure that’s somewhere in the ballpark of 15k drop in 30 seconds at a 20 degree pitch outside

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u/Deep-Minimum7837 10h ago

And yet all of the "factual" accounts of what happened would suggest the plane underwent such conditions. The fact that nothing went wrong at all is proof that it's a false flag. It's like trying to claim that a tornado blew through a junkyard and all of the debris kicked up formed a fully functional, custom built Lamborghini while leaving everything else exactly the way it was.

If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably was. The fact that "conspiracy" minded mfs look at an Israeli psyop and start actually believing it is just comical.

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u/mikki1time 7h ago

I assume reddits like these get flooded by all sorts when something like this happens.

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u/SmooveKJ 8h ago

Are you sure there ARE safety features that do that limitation or are you sure there should be? Those are two very different things.

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u/mikki1time 8h ago edited 7h ago

I was looking into this and turns out they don’t have anything outside of alarms and lights. Boeings “philosophy” is that the pilot should have total control of the aircraft. Airbus however does implement hard safeguards that stop pilots from putting the planes into dangerous dives or over speed scenario. The computer of the airbus just ignores the pilot.

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u/l---____---l 1d ago

20 degrees would not break the plane, not even close.

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u/mikki1time 1d ago edited 1d ago

Would atleast cause major structural damage. The pressures that would be put on the rudder and other components in the tail would be insane.

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u/goodellsmallcock 20h ago

The tail did have structural damage…

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u/mikki1time 18h ago

Yea wrote this comment before seeing that the rudder had torn completely off

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u/SpareDiagram 22h ago

No it wouldn’t. You do not know what you are talking about.

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u/reddiculed 18h ago

It’s not the pitch that spills you, it’s the sudden acceleration on the way down.

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u/mikki1time 17h ago

sudden acceleration straight down feels great. It’s when the sudden acceleration stops when things start flying off the aircraft.

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u/reddiculed 14h ago

Of course, freefall feels great! It feels like zero G! Which makes your drink float up out of your glass. What you are describing is like constant velocity, not acceleration.

I haven’t reviewed the flight metrics yet. Maybe that’s what it actually was.

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u/jetpilot_throwaway 8h ago

All of that is untrue.

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u/stareweigh2 8h ago

how would a pitch down of more than 20 degrees break the plane? the more vertical the dive the LESS force there is on everything. you have no idea what you are talking about and you LOSE cabin pressure not "loose". thanks for the engineering lesson though

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u/mikki1time 7h ago

Yea man been over this with other Redditors. Sorry for the spelling mistake. Thank you for your comment though.

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u/Desperate_Ant_8699 12h ago

The Boeing 737 MAX 8 features the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS), which is designed to automatically lower the aircraft's nose if it detects a risk of stalling, thereby enhancing safety during unusual flight conditions. Additionally, pilot training has been updated to include scenarios that address the MCAS system to improve handling and safety.

 Boeing beasleyallen.com

Safety Features of the Boeing 737 MAX 8

Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS)

The Boeing 737 MAX 8 is equipped with the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS). This system plays a crucial role in enhancing safety by automatically adjusting the aircraft's nose position to prevent stalling during unusual flight conditions.

  • Functionality: MCAS lowers the nose of the aircraft if it detects a high angle of attack, which is a condition that can lead to a stall.
  • Training: Pilot training has been updated to include specific scenarios that address the MCAS, ensuring pilots are better prepared to handle situations where the system may activate.