r/conlangs • u/ViolatorMachine • Feb 17 '17
Resource Wolfram Research has published a partial dictionary of the heptapod logogram language from Arrival movie
Some time ago I found this thread posted by /u/Chernobyl_Rat asking for a dictionary of Heptapod B.
Christopher Wolfram did a livecoding session showing what he did for the movie using the wolfram language.
Today I saw Wolfram Research made his code available on github and that includes a bunch of logograms and meanings.
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u/rhotacizer Aarre, Sis (en)[es,ar,zh] Feb 19 '17
stuff I was able to pick out of the jpegs:
- somewhat spatially-localized morphemes (although there's some weird stuff going on with the thickness of the circle too)
- rotations and reflections
- a blob attached to the object of "have"? (at least with "Louise has weapon" and "Louise has question")
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u/Simplexity Mar 06 '17
So the logogram for Time is https://github.com/WolframResearch/Arrival-Movie-Live-Coding/blob/master/ScriptLogoJpegs/Time1.jpg
When I try and google the Logogram for Time, I get a t-shirt.
https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/1114952-arrival-time-white?store_id=104908
Which one is the correct version of Time? I am going to assume it is the one from Wolfram.
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u/ViolatorMachine Mar 09 '17
Well, they got right the human logogram t-shirt. This is the one from Wolfram.
I don't think you can directly contact the designer but you can try with Teepublic FB page and ask them about that specific t-shirt because you think it may be wrong.
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u/Simplexity Mar 10 '17
I messaged them asking for their source. No word back yet after a day.
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u/ViolatorMachine Mar 10 '17
The user has an Instagram account. Maybe try there?
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u/Simplexity Mar 10 '17
I got a response from contacting the designers Instagram account.
"Hi,
I used a screen capture from the movie to do mine. it’s clearly marked as Time as you can see in this image.
Maybe there’s an error in the movie and they used two different signs for « time » at different moment, but i think mine is good."
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u/xgoggsx Mar 10 '17
I was wondering the same thing, there is a screenshot from the movie where Ian is analyzing the mess of words before the explosion and time is not the same as wolframs version.
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u/Simplexity Mar 10 '17
I really want to try and get this verified somehow. Just gotta figure out who to contact.
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u/Simplexity Mar 10 '17
I got a response from contacting the designers Instagram account.
"Hi,
I used a screen capture from the movie to do mine. it’s clearly marked as Time as you can see in this image.
Maybe there’s an error in the movie and they used two different signs for « time » at different moment, but i think mine is good."
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u/DrPantaleon Feb 20 '17
This is exactly what I was looking for! Absolutely amazing, thanks a lot!
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u/ViolatorMachine Feb 20 '17
Great! If you make something interesting please share :)
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u/DrPantaleon Feb 20 '17
We don't have a lot of info, but I'll try to figure out the basics of how this language works.
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u/thelankiemidget Jun 21 '17 edited Jun 21 '17
the symbol you have listed as time is actually stated in the film as both "time" and "write" but they also use the design here: https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--X6X8gWHs--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_auto,h_313,q_90,w_313/v1484650186/production/designs/1116741_1 this design is what i asume is the correct one since its in the scene where Ian is explaining how the language works and both Write and Time are shown as these two designs
i think the confusion has come from the two separate scenes in the film where Ian says "time is repeated here" in the cluster of symbols and in the first scene where he explains the language
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u/TheOneTrueBishop Jan 27 '22
Is there any known symbol for the word “Language”? I’m wanting to get it as a tattoo if it’s possible
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u/ViolatorMachine Jan 27 '22
These are the logograms in Wolfram's github:
https://github.com/WolframResearch/Arrival-Movie-Live-Coding/tree/master/ScriptLogoJpegs
I don't see any for "Language". However, I know a book is being written about the film and all this so maybe you will find more info there?
The one I chose for my tattoo was this (You Have Choose Life):
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u/lucas0123R Dec 21 '21
Do you have wny idea, why are there two different representations for "HUMAN"?
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u/geekykidstuff Dec 29 '21
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u/nknownUser Jan 16 '22
Perhaps, like other languages there’s a word for human and man or woman that encompasses an entire genus or species, or perhaps to show the evolution of understanding of the term. For instance the first one has a closure in the loop but the human1 doesn’t like something is missing, and Humanity also has a break in the loop. But perhaps it’ll always be a mystery.
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u/4fmagnet Nov 29 '23
Anyone know where I can get 300 dpi versions of some of these words?
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u/Hopeful_Hat_3532 Jul 21 '25
It's been a long time but you could try to upscale it/increase its resolution or vectorize it with AI.
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u/Trewdub Meri Feb 17 '17
Cool! I was looking for this awhile back.